A400M or C17 the next big thing
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Given that the government is "Considering options for heavy airlift capabilities to supplement the medium lift C-130 J Hercules aircraft.", I wouldn't waste too much breath extoling the virtues of the H.
I'll save you the embarrassment of rebutting your comment about replacing "the below average under performing grey thing with a proficient and capable strat airlifter".
The only context in which that comment rings true involves the 707
Given that the government is "Considering options for heavy airlift capabilities to supplement the medium lift C-130 J Hercules aircraft.", I wouldn't waste too much breath extoling the virtues of the H.
I'll save you the embarrassment of rebutting your comment about replacing "the below average under performing grey thing with a proficient and capable strat airlifter".
The only context in which that comment rings true involves the 707
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Now let me see.........Airbus vs Boeing/Lockheed.
Bit of a no-brainer really!
The C17 has done stirling service so far and it seems reasonable to lease a few.
Now you think if the airlines complain about service and support from Airbus in major capitals/centres, I wonder how Airbus would provide support in say Afghanistan?
At least Boeing/Lockheed can supply and support with an aircraft that has a proven track record here and now as opposed to the Airbus pipedream.
Bummer about Airbus losing that Qantas order eh?
Bit of a no-brainer really!
The C17 has done stirling service so far and it seems reasonable to lease a few.
Now you think if the airlines complain about service and support from Airbus in major capitals/centres, I wonder how Airbus would provide support in say Afghanistan?
At least Boeing/Lockheed can supply and support with an aircraft that has a proven track record here and now as opposed to the Airbus pipedream.
Bummer about Airbus losing that Qantas order eh?
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Airlift of Tanks
The stupidity of all this talk about buying the M1 and not being able to transport them by air is that we cannot deploy the current Leopard tanks by air either. I don't think there are any tanks around that can be deployed by Herc. And before anyone says it, I know that some APC's can be moved by Herc but they are not frontline battle tanks. I believe that the C17's are the way to go as we have needed this type of capabilty for ages and it is the only true option to fill this void asap.
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They are buying M1's that are second hand and zero timed with turbines that can run on diesel as well as avtur. The are being given to John W. Howard dirt cheap so the US has a ready made "coalition" to invade other countries with gay abandon.
As for the C-17 or the M400. This is no contest....the M400 can carry about half the weight of an M1 while the C-17 can carry carry just over the weight of an M1.
Still, what an appalling waste of money.
As for the C-17 or the M400. This is no contest....the M400 can carry about half the weight of an M1 while the C-17 can carry carry just over the weight of an M1.
Still, what an appalling waste of money.
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The Poms are selling their stubby J models. I wouldn't be surprised if Australia buys them and parks the H models. After all the H models are 28 years old.
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C17 Max payload 170900lbs
M1A2 Abrams 139080lbs (69.54 tons)
C17 range with 130000lb payload ~5200nm
range with 160000lb payload ~2400nm
But... using aircraft is not an efficient method of getting MBTs to the battlefield. The Navy's planned multi-purpose amphibious ships are...
The C17's large hold is also very good for hosting airshow parties
M1A2 Abrams 139080lbs (69.54 tons)
C17 range with 130000lb payload ~5200nm
range with 160000lb payload ~2400nm
But... using aircraft is not an efficient method of getting MBTs to the battlefield. The Navy's planned multi-purpose amphibious ships are...
The C17's large hold is also very good for hosting airshow parties
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