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Old 14th Dec 2005, 22:14
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AO,Qantas and the Japanese Market

Late last week the The Bank of Japan stated its position regarding the Yen.
The Yen of late has been sliding against all major currencies.
The BoJ states that it is not concerned and indeed indicated that over the next 2 years can see the Yen reaching 160 against the
greenback
It is currently around 91 against the $A.
This means travel overseas by Japanese will become more expensive.
In real terms a declining market.
The decline in interest in the Japanese market has been evident at QF for some time.The introduction of AO into this market is a further emphasis of the QF Group's view that Japan will become a secondary source of profit.
The QF Group sees India and China as the next economies to provide greater growth opportunities.
Eventually QF will provide a code share with JAL to NRT.
Another destination to be lost.
It is interesting that management rattles on about its growth strategy in the last 10 years,when in fact the QF Network is the smallest it has ever been

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Withdrawals...just a few

Rome
Paris
Amsterdam
Vancouver(in and out)
San Francisco(in and out)
Buenos Aires
Kuala Lumpur
Belgrade
Taipei(in and out)
Manchester
Bahrain
Mauritius
Athens
Tehran
Seoul
Tahiti
Fiji
Sapporo
Nagoya
Fukuoka
Montreal
Acapulco
Toronto
Zimbabwe
Wellington
.........and this a GROWTH strategy?
Zurich was once on the horizon but never eventuated.
The QF Website indicates 83 international destinations in 40 countries.
Lets see........
Los Angeles
New York
Honolulu
Auckland
Christchurch
Singapore
Hong Kong
Bangkok
Frankfurt
Jo'Burg
London
Shanghai
Tokyo
Thats 13 international destinations in 10 countries.
Thats mainline only.
Where you buy a Qantas ticket and you get a Qantas Aircraft,Qantas Pilots and Qantas Engineering and Qantas Cabin Crew.
An Australian Experience
The rest is featherbedding called "Codesharing"
Thank God management isn't in a contraction phase.

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The QF Website indicates 83 international destinations in 40 countries.
They can defend that on codeshare.

Pity you can't use the lounges when flying "QF" as a Qantas Club Member though!
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Old 15th Dec 2005, 03:47
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DEFCON4 your point is well made, but you have a few of the current QF destinations (non-codeshare) missing, notably:

Denpasar (Bali)
Mumbai
Jakarta
Manila
Noumea
Wellington
Queenstown
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Some other withdrawals

What about Norfolk and how could anyone overlook Damascus?? Add Mexico City, Bermuda, and Nassau. All since the 1970's. Also, think you'll find that Qantas has never operated scheduled services to Montreal.
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Corrected...

I can never remember the other Canadian City operated to on the east coast.
I can always remember Toronto.
Sure there was another on the East coast.
Any one help me out?
Denapasar
Jakarta = Indonesia
Mainline(Longhaul) don't fly to Wellington and Queenstown
Manilla ...Yes
Mumbai(in and out)
Sorry another two countries and another 4 destinations
Brings the count to 12 countries and 17 destinations.
Again not a large network for the ninth largest airline in the world(By Market capitalization)
Oops.... and Noumea
Grand Total=13 countries and 18 destinations
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No list of lamented former Qantas destinations would be complete without PORT MORESBY!!!
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This is an impressive list but to be fair, QF never went to all of these destinations at the same time.

I can recall the golden age of the 767 back in the mid 90's. 35 odd aeroplanes going as far west as Mumbai and as far east as Toronto and everywhere in between.

In the 80's we had a plethora of European destinations on the jumbo plus SFO, YVR and PPT.

Who knows, with all these super efficent 787's maybe a lot of them will return.
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