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Old 9th Dec 2005, 09:49
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Angry Bloody ABC!

ABC TV news reports 7 pax taken to hospital in Brisbane after "toxic" fumes filled the cabin of their aircraft.

The ABC website, thankfully, doesn't use the emotive word, toxic.

IF the fumes were indeed toxic, how come only 7 pax needed medical attention?

How TF does ABC TV know the fumes were toxic, withina short time span of the event?

Presuming that the word toxic was used to imbellish, WHY!? Why can't they just report the facts????????
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Old 9th Dec 2005, 09:54
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From ninemsn,

Jetstar emergency puts five in hospital
Friday Dec 9 21:33 AEDT
Five people have been taken to hospital with breathing problems after a Jetstar plane made an emergency landing at Brisbane Airport.

The plane, bound for Cairns, was forced back to Brisbane shortly after 6pm (AEST) when the pilot reported fumes were coming from the cabin.

Fire fighters, police and ambulance officers were immediately on the scene.

A spokesman from the Queensland Ambulance Service was not immediately available for comment but it is believed seven people were treated at the scene.




A Brisbane Airport Corporation spokesman said five of those affected were taken to Royal Brisbane Hospital with breathing problems.

"There were reports of fumes and a number of passengers were taken ill," he said.

"All of the other passengers have been passed over to Qantas for them to manage whether they go onwards to Cairns or whether they put them up for the night in Brisbane."

A Jetstar spokesman was also not immediately available for comment.

An Australian Transport Safety Bureau spokesman said the incident would be reviewed over the next few days.

"The aircraft reported fumes in the cabin and returned to Brisbane as a precaution which is the way to do these things," he said.


İAAP 2005

Any ideas as to 717 or A320?
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F'ing great things these airyplanes aren't they?

The aircraft reported fumes in the cabin
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That just goes to show you free boarding does not work.

A decent flight editor could make sure that 6 Iraqi goat herders were not seated across one row in the front of the aeroplane.

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All of the other passengers have been passed over to Qantas for them to manage
Maybe they figure you should neversend a boy to do a man's job...??
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All of the other passengers have been passed over to Qantas for them to manage whether they go onwards to Cairns or whether they put them up for the night in Brisbane."
I bet that J* doesn't get charged for that either! Oh, that's right. Our costs are higher and times like this are why!
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Maybe this one will be put down to 'mass hysteria' like the Melbourne incident at the DJ Terminal.

Probably just a few boxes of fruit & veg like jack fruit or mangoes, which when under-ripe smell bloody disgusting.

At times an airport terminal can look more like a green grocer's shop.

Sometimes you really need to do a 'Spanish Inquisition' to find out what people are carrying:

Q. (To a Belgian backpacker) Are you carrying any thing dangerous or flammable in your backpack?
A. No.
Q. Nothing used for cooking or camping?
A. "No, only ze cooking tablets". These innocent sounding things were actually solid fuel tablets. Pax were quite indignant about them being confiscated as they had travelled with them on several other flights on their trip without question so obviously hadn't been quizzed too much about DG stuff.

Q. (To British Soldier travelling back to Brunei) Are you carrying any dangerous or flammable items in your luggage?
A. No
Q. Nothing explosive?
A. Ahhh, I've got these flares but they're only mini-flares! Mate, you may as well be a little bit pregnant.

Q. (To an average punter) What's in the (Arnott's biscuits) cardboard box?
A. A motorbike head.
Q. Has it had fuel in it?
A. Yes but it's been cleaned out. Another no-go situation so he phones a friend to come & retrieve it.

Many times the response will be "but they let me take them on the way over" which should translate to "I never declared them on the way over" possbily because they weren't asked the right questions if indeed the DG questions were asked at all.

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Old 9th Dec 2005, 22:32
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F'ing great things these airyplanes aren't they?
Gee those buses are bloody smart if they can now detect strange smells!!

I wonder if Jet* payed the froggies extra for that feature or does it come standard?
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Old 9th Dec 2005, 22:33
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Evidently the recent visit by the A380 made a big impression on Brisbane as radio 4KQ this morning reported the aircraft type as a "Mini Airbus".

You can tell Knoxy doesn't work weekends.
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Old 9th Dec 2005, 23:16
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Hey Capt. Claret - Leave the ABC alone. OK so how many threads are there now about how we do not like the way incidents are reported through the media - you know what? They don't care.

Chnl Nine is Howards mouthpiece, you know that, at least the Aunty follows a charter

I know I get my .08 cents worth (or whatever it is) a day out of it!!
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Old 9th Dec 2005, 23:27
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I was watching from the crew room when it came in, plus about 4 ambos turned up as well.

The FA's were out on the tarmac with the paramedics sucking on oxy, and it looked like one was having trouble walking.

While I was driving home, ABC radio interviewed a Qld Ambo spokesperson who said the fumes were toxic, and there was 20 pax on the aircraft!

Only 20. If thats true, thats about 30% taken to hospital.

Lucky they didnt have 177 onboard.
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Apparently its now being reported a pax had a gas cylnder on his/her carry on bag. Fire service reorted fumes as Butane.
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Old 9th Dec 2005, 23:50
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A bit over the top, Clarrie. If the fumes weren't toxic to some degree surely nobody would have been taken to hospital? Seems a reasonable enough assumption to me.
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Clarrie is probably so wound up about this coz it was one of his farts and he didn't want to be on the news!
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Was this the News crew?






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If the morons who carry out the security screening were capable of finding more than a knitting needle they could make them responsible for checking for DG's. After all a gas cylinder on board an aircraft is not as dangerous as knitting needles, nail clippers and the like.

Re the crap that newspapers publish. Yesterdays NT news told a story about a piper aerocommander, bit like a cessna 737 I guess.
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Old 10th Dec 2005, 03:45
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Fliegenmong

I'm very pro ABC and watch/listen extensively. The thread & it's title indicate my dissapointment that, in the news article I saw on ABC TV news in Brisvegas, used the word toxic, when in reality they couldn't have known that for sure.

Binoculars

Perhaps it was a bit OTT, as mentioned above, my chagrin was that I perceived the use of the word toxic as a more typically ACA melodramatic beat up, which I had thought the ABC was above.

Capn Bloggs

I emphatically deny your assertion. It is amusing that you mention it though, as some one in the briefing this morning made mention of such a bodily function, so the password was, botty burp.

RENURPP

I 'hear on the grapevine' that said pax passed through security twice with the gas cyl and wasn't detected either time.

Probably because the DOTARs mandated morons were too busy checking that the crew had caps on their deodorant spray, the captain wasn't carrying a leatherman, and the F/O didn't have an alen key in his nav bag!

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That's a bloody great photo!

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Old 10th Dec 2005, 03:49
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Hey TIN !

Like I said on another forum - I get my .08cents (or however much it is) worth a day!!
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Old 10th Dec 2005, 04:01
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How the faaark do they miss a gas cylinder??? they even took a hard look at that stylus thingy in my PDA and one of those retractable presentation pointers the other day.

I must admit I am personaly leery of any those aerosol cans having seen the damage done to my nephews car when he left one in the sun on the backshelf. I have been using non aerosol stuff for a long time anyway.

Was it a little camping type or a refill can. Jaysus.

It's probably a good thing it was not on the hold, coz if it had gone off there's a fair chance it would have taken the aircraft out.

Dunno the upshot but there should be a goal term for the passenger AND the security guys.

It'll be the same sort of moron who carries drugs in to the terminal andthionks the Death penalty signs everywhere are for someone else.

Clarrie, ABC, welded on the dial.
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Old 10th Dec 2005, 04:59
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I'm with you Gaunty - Local ABC Bris (612am) - No need whatsoever to change the station.

You are quite right though gaol term should be for the security staff as well, in the hold it may well have taken an a/c out - then can you imagine Boeing / Airbus argument we'd be having then!!
Centre wing fuel tanks - can happen to anybody right??
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