$22 fuel levy at Qantas for Staff Travel per sector
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"Back to dimming lights????
Why is this?? "
It is a [nonsense] decision made by the marketing "gurus" now running cabin services.
They feel that making a decision [read, ANY decision] helps to justify their [pointless] existence.
Why is this?? "
It is a [nonsense] decision made by the marketing "gurus" now running cabin services.
They feel that making a decision [read, ANY decision] helps to justify their [pointless] existence.
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Buster..
Correct.
The visors are up during the most critical phase of all flights:
Take off and landing.
This provides clear vision of whats happening outside:
Engine fires,flaps problems etc
For years QF have argued that the cabin lights must be on full bright for both phases.
In the blink of an eye that has all changed.
Why?
Some idiot in marketing doesn`t want to wake up the pax on descent.
Hell, if I was going to get my arse wet or burnt I would sure as hell like to be awake to exponentially increase my chances of survival.
The visors are up during the most critical phase of all flights:
Take off and landing.
This provides clear vision of whats happening outside:
Engine fires,flaps problems etc
For years QF have argued that the cabin lights must be on full bright for both phases.
In the blink of an eye that has all changed.
Why?
Some idiot in marketing doesn`t want to wake up the pax on descent.
Hell, if I was going to get my arse wet or burnt I would sure as hell like to be awake to exponentially increase my chances of survival.
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Lights dimmed for take off and landing - agree with 100%. At least now people will have some night vision if $hit hits the fan.
Don't work for Qantas and haven't travelled with them for a while so can I assume this? The lights are on for decent while the cabin is cleared up and then off half way down the decent. Of course your eyes will only just be starting to get adjusted by the time you land but still better than on full blast as has been the case in the past.
Don't work for Qantas and haven't travelled with them for a while so can I assume this? The lights are on for decent while the cabin is cleared up and then off half way down the decent. Of course your eyes will only just be starting to get adjusted by the time you land but still better than on full blast as has been the case in the past.
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Have heard that the levy lets them cruise a bit quicker as the orders are plan a slower speed to conserve fuel but the levy lets em hurry it along if required, so seems if they slow and CHARGE the levy they (Quaint Arse) make a lot more!!!!
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Lights dimmed for take off and landing - agree with 100%. At least now people will have some night vision if $hit hits the fan.
Dim/Bright lights could be another thread ...
And for the record, yes $22 is a bit over the top, expecially for short regional sectors.
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I think there should not be a levy. But seeing as there is the price per sector for domestic should reflect the fare level. eg:MEL or SYD to CBR, MEL to TAS on all these sectors the levy is more than the fare.
triadic
For the record full night vision takes 20 - 30 minutes to acquire not a the few seconds that you claim. Do a search on the internet or better still have a look at some Human Performance notes from any ATPL course. Cabin lights are dimmed for safety reasons. Nothing more nothing less. They're not dimmed so the punters can have a pretty view of the light from their window as some may think.
Normal eyesight takes only seconds to adjust in such a situation - having the lights bright or dim does not change that.
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Correct Titan, but don't worry about the net, when you turn your bedroom lights off at night see how long it takes to start distinguishing objects around the room, a bit more than a few seconds.
Dimming the lights during the day makes bugger all difference, just keeps it all standard.
Since the only lights you will see in an emergency at night are the emrg. lights, I don't see why dimming the lights for t/off is a bad thing ?
Dimming the lights during the day makes bugger all difference, just keeps it all standard.
Since the only lights you will see in an emergency at night are the emrg. lights, I don't see why dimming the lights for t/off is a bad thing ?
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85 yrs
Its taken successive QF Management 85years to figure this out.
Any way about the levy.
It sucks.
The fuel burn rate increase would be so small as to almost insignificant.
Certainly not the $35 per sector that they are charging.
But what else do you expect from a Company that charges staff for Water?
Any way about the levy.
It sucks.
The fuel burn rate increase would be so small as to almost insignificant.
Certainly not the $35 per sector that they are charging.
But what else do you expect from a Company that charges staff for Water?
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Thanks Geoff and Margaret also for closing the staff travel office in MEL back in July. Approx 7000 QF group staff in this port now have to endure the 45 minutes on hold to SYD staff travel. What a joke!
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Cheaper on other Carriers
If you want to go to Japan for example its cheaper if you buy a ticket on JAL...they don't charge a fuel levy.
Possibly a way around this outrageous charge:
Travel on another carrier.
The profit and turnover of staff travel would plummet.
Hit 'em where it hurts....profit
Possibly a way around this outrageous charge:
Travel on another carrier.
The profit and turnover of staff travel would plummet.
Hit 'em where it hurts....profit
Last edited by Le 3rd Homme; 10th Nov 2005 at 04:18.