The old birds get the Virgins worm!
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The old birds get the Virgins worm!
Virgin discriminated on age
10oct05
THE Queensland Anti-Discrimination Tribunal has found airline Virgin Blue discriminated against eight flight attendant job applicants on the basis of age.
The former Ansett attendants, aged between 35 and 55, launched an action in May claiming that they did not pass the first round of Virgin Blue's assessment because they were not young or attractive enough.
Tribunal member Douglas Savage today told the Brisbane Magistrates Court he agreed with the women, finding the Virgin Blue assessors were "unconsciously discriminating on the basis of age" against the applicants.
Mr Savage said in his judgment that this accounted for the fact that no cabin crew over the age of 36 had been hired during Virgin Blue's recruitment drive between September 2001 and September 2002.
Outside court, one of the women, Nicole Hopper, said she was overjoyed by the win and it showed "people over the age of 35 are not finished".
Mr Savage adjourned the hearing for a date to be fixed to decide what financial compensation the women should receive for economic loss.
All eight women with the exception of Alma Frank have lodged claims for monetary compensation.
Ms Frank was awarded $5000 today by Mr Savage on her claim of having suffered "hurt, humiliation and the like".
Was that Grass' Missus? I didn't think she was that old!
10oct05
THE Queensland Anti-Discrimination Tribunal has found airline Virgin Blue discriminated against eight flight attendant job applicants on the basis of age.
The former Ansett attendants, aged between 35 and 55, launched an action in May claiming that they did not pass the first round of Virgin Blue's assessment because they were not young or attractive enough.
Tribunal member Douglas Savage today told the Brisbane Magistrates Court he agreed with the women, finding the Virgin Blue assessors were "unconsciously discriminating on the basis of age" against the applicants.
Mr Savage said in his judgment that this accounted for the fact that no cabin crew over the age of 36 had been hired during Virgin Blue's recruitment drive between September 2001 and September 2002.
Outside court, one of the women, Nicole Hopper, said she was overjoyed by the win and it showed "people over the age of 35 are not finished".
Mr Savage adjourned the hearing for a date to be fixed to decide what financial compensation the women should receive for economic loss.
All eight women with the exception of Alma Frank have lodged claims for monetary compensation.
Ms Frank was awarded $5000 today by Mr Savage on her claim of having suffered "hurt, humiliation and the like".
Was that Grass' Missus? I didn't think she was that old!
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I would hazard a guess that this decision will be howled down by all those "pro virgin" lunatics who also think that riding a motorbike at 140km/hr in a 70km/hr is a good idea.
Good on yer girls. Give em heaps.
Good on yer girls. Give em heaps.
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Just goes to show that safety and skill has little to do with the Virgin recruitment process. a size 8 body and being under 30 is more important. I know what I would prefer if I needed to be assisted from a burning a/craft. Skill would win any day. Anyway what more would you expect from the aero club with 737's Thank god we still have Qantas now that Ansett is gone. Good on you girls, sock it to them.
With or without golf ball dents in their thighs 
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Just watched the late edition news. Had to laugh when all the FAs look stunning and the Virgin rep was a fat mole. Interestingly, the ex AN FA's look more attractive than the 'younger' ones I've seen lately!
Go for the throat girls
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Go for the throat girls
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Way to go girls !!!
Not all will fall for the Virgin hype and bullsh!t.
Not all will fall for the Virgin hype and bullsh!t.
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There is nothing like good ol maturity on an overnight. Bring back the ol girls and some bounce and spring. Love the droopy chin after the 4th merlot. !!! In the morning it's not "oh you told me you loved me" but actually "I'm getting a little too old for this, but thanks for the old times."
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ratpoison, you're on the mark son.
The good ole days with a range of chicky babes!!
We could be amused by the young babes so far up themselves they calltheir own name when having an orgasm; the ones we couldn't understand because they punctuated every sentence with liberal "likes, wows, you knows, I means," etc, the language of pre p;ubescent schoolgirls, but still wanted to be treated as though they were adults.
And then there were the older ones who were great value, no pretences, no strings, no free drinks, and just good to have on an overnight.
There were afew of each group that you wouldn;t want to be seen with anywhere, at any price though.
The good ole days with a range of chicky babes!!
We could be amused by the young babes so far up themselves they calltheir own name when having an orgasm; the ones we couldn't understand because they punctuated every sentence with liberal "likes, wows, you knows, I means," etc, the language of pre p;ubescent schoolgirls, but still wanted to be treated as though they were adults.
And then there were the older ones who were great value, no pretences, no strings, no free drinks, and just good to have on an overnight.
There were afew of each group that you wouldn;t want to be seen with anywhere, at any price though.
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Now that VB have been touched up a little,
How many over 40 pilots have been taken without Jet experience.
I guess only a token few.
Really if some of the ‘youngsters’ are moving on for more lucrative o/s positions after only a couple of years, would it make more sense to take a 45 year old over a 25 year old (more varied experience) and then know that the older pilot is going to be around for 10-15 years.
I guess a few wrinkles in the LH seat is OK, but it does not fit the VB fun and youthful image in the RH seat.
Older pilots would be available to keep the older FAs company on the said overnights
P.S. How many 45 year olds with a wife, kids, dog and bank manager to support could afford $30K and 2+ months with no income.
How many over 40 pilots have been taken without Jet experience.
I guess only a token few.
Really if some of the ‘youngsters’ are moving on for more lucrative o/s positions after only a couple of years, would it make more sense to take a 45 year old over a 25 year old (more varied experience) and then know that the older pilot is going to be around for 10-15 years.
I guess a few wrinkles in the LH seat is OK, but it does not fit the VB fun and youthful image in the RH seat.
Older pilots would be available to keep the older FAs company on the said overnights
P.S. How many 45 year olds with a wife, kids, dog and bank manager to support could afford $30K and 2+ months with no income.
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There are plenty of older people working in the cabin of VB flights. Most of which bring years of experience from AN and abroad.
You'll find that those unsuitable applicants were unsuitable for reasons other than age.
So the questions are:
Now that VB have been slapped on the wrist, do the "unsuitables" still want a job? Probabaly not. Did they ever really want a job? Probably not. Was flexing muscle and "sticking it to them" worth it? Not unless a rich hubby is paying for all those midday coffee and botox appointments, finding work for themselves won't be easy now!
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You'll find that those unsuitable applicants were unsuitable for reasons other than age.
So the questions are:
Now that VB have been slapped on the wrist, do the "unsuitables" still want a job? Probabaly not. Did they ever really want a job? Probably not. Was flexing muscle and "sticking it to them" worth it? Not unless a rich hubby is paying for all those midday coffee and botox appointments, finding work for themselves won't be easy now!
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You are starting to believe your Aero Club propaganda Mr BZZZZZ. The girls rejected were a cross section of people with one thing in common. heaps of experience but they were OLD by the Aero Club standards. You keep believing the dribble anyway BZZZZZZZ
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Girls?..... where?
Get your hand off your pole buddy!
Loads of experience doesnt get you through the QF system either.
Just because someone is "experienced" doesnt mean they are the person for the job.
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Get your hand off your pole buddy!
Loads of experience doesnt get you through the QF system either.
Just because someone is "experienced" doesnt mean they are the person for the job.
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BZZZZZ you are the one with the hand on it. fancy even comparing the service and standards at the aero club with that at AN. One was at least a world class airline. At least you cant complain about the service at the aero club cause there is none. As I said you keep believing the hype.