Jetstar Cross Cockpit Qualifications

[Sandy Freckle]

There is a post in Qrewroom suggesting that CASA has refused Jetstar Pilots their cross cockpit qualifications for the A320 to the A330.

There is another rumour floating around however, that the opposite is true.

Anyone care to comment?

[Arsey Eight]

Yeah, on the dark side we've heard the opposite. Minimum hrs 1000+ req on 320 before you'd do the 330 transition. 5 Day course in MEL. Mind you it is a rumour network.

[flyingcircus]

i believe casa has no problems with the cross crew qualification, not sure what the min standard is to go to the 330, but airbus only requires 130hrs on the 320, but i believe the company will look at making that a lot higher.

[Zeke]

airbus only requires 130hrs on the 320

Prerequisite

Pilot already A320 type rated. Experienced in operating the aircraft for at least 3 months and 150 hours.

9 days total.

http://www.content.airbusworld.com/S...FQE_JULY04.htm

[pondoklabu]

I am assuming by this thread this relates to Jet* pilots flying QANTAS 's A330's.
I think cross qual may be the least of your reg hurdles.
Looking at the present flying the A330 does for QANTAS it would have to be a min 180 ETOPS this qual is not quickly attained by the crew or maintenence program, unless of coarse jet star are going to use Qantas's checking and training , QANTAS AOC as well as there maintence program .
If not because Jet* have there own AOC they must start from scratch on proving flights and all the other regulator hurdles.
Its not a quick process.
So to any Jet* pilot buying A330 books it may pay to be patient.
cheers

[Karunch]

Unlikely the Jet* guys will get a look at the 330's for some time, Dec's (direct entry captains) will fill the initial spots and the ex An 320 guys will have to wait until seniority allows them a seat. Pretty much exactly as happened when the 320 arrived. The feelers have gone out for A330 Dec's already, although the package needs some work. Cheers,

[Aussie]

Is QF short of A330 pilots? Why dont they just recuit more pilots?

[connection fee]

When and how many 330's is Jet* getting? and since when ??

[Sandy Freckle]

There is nothing at this stage to suggest that Jetstar are or are not getting 330's.

The question was simple. Has CASA approved the Jetstar 320 to 330 Cross Cockpit Qualification?

Don't read anything else into it....

[757manipulator]

Good old CASA...by the sounds of it if its true. "yeah mate we dont wanna believe those Airbus frogs..they dont know anything about flyin the bus and differences courses..nobody knows better than we do at CASA"

Wheres MOR when you need him to chip in....

[Rostov]

Rumour has it there is some big announcement mid-late this month about Jetstar A330 and cross crew qualifications begining April next year.Hold on tight.....

[Australia2]

And what will they be paying ?

I am guessing much the same as the A320, only in Oz !!

Oz2

[boebus]

Australia2
- You should know! You are in HKG. They will do the same as Dragonair - 320 pilots pay will be the same as 330 pilots. The only difference is that Dragonair is a real airline which pays real wages!

757manipulator
- Yep, you are right! CASA will be CAA will be DCA will be DOT will be Transport Australia etc etc etc etc - they know better than any one else in the world and will do it thier own way! Gee the Aussies have got something to be proud of!

Rostov
- Will be waiting to see what happens with Jet* OZ/International and Australian Airlines. The Big Dick (GD) and his off siders have been hinting a fair bit in their recent statements to the press lately!

[Pete Conrad]

Australia2, the Impulse scum didnt have to pay for their A320 rating, nor did they have to sit the Qantas selection process. All new hires to Jet* have to first do QF selection, then pay for their ratings.

[757manipulator]

Even us blessed fellows with 320 ratings from different companies Pete?

(never had to pay for one..and Im only 33!

)

[Pete Conrad]

757manipulator...If your not the core, that being Impulse, the above doesn't apply to you does it. Cast your mind back to when Jet* formed.

[Gnadenburg]

Someone told me, may have been Pete Conrad , that J* pilots have offered to crew the A330's for the same money as they are the A320's. That will show those QF pilots! And also quell the management rumoured proposal of using direct entry 330 crew.

Don't get sucked in again Jetstar crew. Rumoured direct entry 330 crew are only a management ploy to get you to undercut yourselves again.

[Pete Conrad]

Gnad, wasn't me, but wouldn't surprise me, the industry these days supports undercutting, so what better an opportunity to let the Jet* guys come to the foray again.

[Heavy Metal]

One of the main drivers behind the idea to pawn off the 4 A330-200's may be that they do not suit Mainline Ops. They have the longlegs over the 300's, but due to shortsightedness, the cabin floor strength is insufficient to carry the new sky beds. Would cost something like $100 million to upgrade. Thus the 200's are currently flying domestic patterns. Must be the flying test base for cycles on a 200. Longhaul, 2 class con fig., but with standard business seat (Jet Star intl?), would suit these aircraft. On another note, how are the 300's going to service Sydney-Beijing direct, this January?

Here is the press release:
http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn/us/press/1073

It doesn't have the legs for a full pax. load, unless they plan to make a tech stop every time they need to carry an alternate(or not fill all the seats).

[ur2]

Gnads,
Not true, the offer was to crew it for A320 money plus 20%, bringing base pay to $162k plus over time.
To be CCQ crew have to have >2000hrs Airbus.