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Look CLOUD/MOR i totally agree with you both and I'm sorry if my post came across defensive that wasn't what I was trying to do.
MOR I agree with hiring DE cpts and have actually agreed with you before on having good experience levels in a cockpit(oops very un PC of me FLIGHTDECK)!! All I was trying to say is that it will only take one person to say to APLA that there not happy and it will all go to custard.
Cloud, I also agree having co's upgrade to cpt inside 12months does mean that there maybe less experience in the plane but you must also remeber in years gone by it wasn't uncommon for co's to upgrade in 9 months!!! it just means that things will have to be monitored by the powers that be very closley to ensure all is running well.
I say give us regional jets and watch the exidous stop
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MOR I agree with hiring DE cpts and have actually agreed with you before on having good experience levels in a cockpit(oops very un PC of me FLIGHTDECK)!! All I was trying to say is that it will only take one person to say to APLA that there not happy and it will all go to custard.
Cloud, I also agree having co's upgrade to cpt inside 12months does mean that there maybe less experience in the plane but you must also remeber in years gone by it wasn't uncommon for co's to upgrade in 9 months!!! it just means that things will have to be monitored by the powers that be very closley to ensure all is running well.
I say give us regional jets and watch the exidous stop
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Hey I didn't think you were being defensive, I thought you highlighted the shortcomings of NZALPA very well indeed!
As far as promoting inexperienced F/O's is concerned... it doesn't really matter how closely you monitor them (which you can't do, in any case). They will find their own way, but the one thing that they most need to do that safely... experience... is the one thing they don't have.
All will go swimmingly until one of these inexperienced captains screws up. History shows us that it is only a matter of time. And if you don't think it can happen... have a look through recent accident reports.
If you promote a guy that has only been in the right seat for nine months, you are handing command to a person who has almost certainly never seen a real emergency, or the inside of a CB, or, quite possibly, ever flown an approach to minima. Do you really want that experience level in charge of your family?
I don't. Give me a captain who has seen a lot of stuff before you promote him.
Hey I didn't think you were being defensive, I thought you highlighted the shortcomings of NZALPA very well indeed!
As far as promoting inexperienced F/O's is concerned... it doesn't really matter how closely you monitor them (which you can't do, in any case). They will find their own way, but the one thing that they most need to do that safely... experience... is the one thing they don't have.
All will go swimmingly until one of these inexperienced captains screws up. History shows us that it is only a matter of time. And if you don't think it can happen... have a look through recent accident reports.
If you promote a guy that has only been in the right seat for nine months, you are handing command to a person who has almost certainly never seen a real emergency, or the inside of a CB, or, quite possibly, ever flown an approach to minima. Do you really want that experience level in charge of your family?
I don't. Give me a captain who has seen a lot of stuff before you promote him.
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or, quite possibly, ever flown an approach to minima
I want a quick command as much as the next guy, but looking at the big picture, you have to be very carefull. On the other hand, the B1900 is a simple aircraft to operate (with no complicated automation to worry about
), and pilots are well supported. With no end in sight for Air NZ hiring (approx 30 more pilots this year, and 60 next year), it will be interesting to see how it all pans out.MOR, i would have thought the Line Manager position that was externaly advertised recently would have been your cup of tea. You would have to start on light twins but you could lobby for those RJs we all want.
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Awww.... didn't even see it. You guys should have told me. It would have been a great opportunity to practice my CRM skills on you all...
Agree with you about the RJs too. They operate quite happily in the UK, on short (30-40 min) sectors and in a low-cost environment. Much better for the pax too.
Trouble is, you guys would have to adapt to lots of extra toys, and also learn the joys of flying a swept-wing jet (not at all like a turboprop).
Mind you Eagle would probably try and order them without autopilots...
Agree with you about the RJs too. They operate quite happily in the UK, on short (30-40 min) sectors and in a low-cost environment. Much better for the pax too.
Trouble is, you guys would have to adapt to lots of extra toys, and also learn the joys of flying a swept-wing jet (not at all like a turboprop).
Mind you Eagle would probably try and order them without autopilots...
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Got that, thanks. Does anyone have the job description, or know where it can be found? Nothing on the Air NZ site.
I could be serious, if the deal was right. Imagine all the fun to be had, lording it over young F/O's (and young captains, it seems). I could spend many happy days, regaling you poor unfortunates with stories about aviation in the real world. I could wax long and lyrical about how crap the CAA are, how the B1900 is the biggest pile of moose droppings ever to grace the skies, and how I am the only person in NZ who REALLY knows anything about aviation.
Yes, it is obvious I am right for this role...
I could be serious, if the deal was right. Imagine all the fun to be had, lording it over young F/O's (and young captains, it seems). I could spend many happy days, regaling you poor unfortunates with stories about aviation in the real world. I could wax long and lyrical about how crap the CAA are, how the B1900 is the biggest pile of moose droppings ever to grace the skies, and how I am the only person in NZ who REALLY knows anything about aviation.
Yes, it is obvious I am right for this role...
