QF anouncement??
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QF anouncement??
Anyone heard anything or got any clues, regarding the 'major anouncement' supposedly to be made on Tues 5/7. Understand Sydney HM is to be shutdown and there may be up to 5000 layoffs QF wide (not all in HM), Lames/Ames to be told Brisbane, Avalon or theres the door. ????
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something is going to happen betwen now and 14/7. Seebury and deloittes consultants are all over the place in ETOMS like a rash. There will be a big Manager re-shuffle (get ready for a few surprises) , My guess is no more D checks in SYD.... SA and C 's only..... and KC takes over Base Maint. then integrates HM / Base maint functions and resources.. this is what other airlines have done as a part of the segementation process. I will be surprised if there is no redundency program.
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My sources (some high up in QF mangmnt) tell me that Sydney HM will be no more - only servicing to remain, GD is talking to Fox about leasing another hangar at AVV and spending ~$30mill to extend/refurb.
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I have heard these rumours too but not in conjunction with Sydney heavy.
I think the cross hairs are aimed firmly at Tulla 737 Heavy with work being sent to NZ untill AVV is set up to handle the work
I think the cross hairs are aimed firmly at Tulla 737 Heavy with work being sent to NZ untill AVV is set up to handle the work
This is pure speculation but.......
This is why I was going on about your EBA being the LAST EBA. Your executive was in the know and sold you all up the river.
Your heavy maintenance has to go somewhere other than Sydney because the Sydney real estate is just too valuable to lock up.
My paranoid guess is that what has been exercising Qantas's management brain is how to justify holding on to their Sydney-centric bias in line maintenance, while getting rid of their heavy stuff. To me, that would be a real hair-splitting act.
Both Brisbane and Melbourne have plenty of space for QF line maintenance operations - we both have oodles of land.
But of course then each of your international aircraft wouldn't have to go through Sydney to get serviced either inbound or outbound would it? And we can't have that can we?
This is why I was going on about your EBA being the LAST EBA. Your executive was in the know and sold you all up the river.
Your heavy maintenance has to go somewhere other than Sydney because the Sydney real estate is just too valuable to lock up.
My paranoid guess is that what has been exercising Qantas's management brain is how to justify holding on to their Sydney-centric bias in line maintenance, while getting rid of their heavy stuff. To me, that would be a real hair-splitting act.
Both Brisbane and Melbourne have plenty of space for QF line maintenance operations - we both have oodles of land.
But of course then each of your international aircraft wouldn't have to go through Sydney to get serviced either inbound or outbound would it? And we can't have that can we?
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Don't think so Bolty. They wouldn't be spending the amount of money they are on hangar refurbs, including new docking, and new extended hour shift rosters only to shut Tullamarine down.
Sydney will have to go simply because space is at an extreme premium there. Plenty of wide open spaces at AVV and I bet the rent is a lot cheaper too.
Wouldn't be surprised to see all the Qantas hangars in Sydney eventually torn down to make way for a Qantas international terminal (much like BA terminal 4 at LHR). However, that would be a few years away yet.
Sydney will have to go simply because space is at an extreme premium there. Plenty of wide open spaces at AVV and I bet the rent is a lot cheaper too.
Wouldn't be surprised to see all the Qantas hangars in Sydney eventually torn down to make way for a Qantas international terminal (much like BA terminal 4 at LHR). However, that would be a few years away yet.
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For what it's worth, my opinion is that within, say 12 - 18 months, B767 & A330(if they keep them)- HM Brisbane, all B737 HM - Tulla, B744 & B777 (coming) HM - AVV.
ALso, Tulla HM hangars to be refurb, while that happens B737 work will relocate temporarily to AVV? & NZ (some 6 months or so).
ALso, Tulla HM hangars to be refurb, while that happens B737 work will relocate temporarily to AVV? & NZ (some 6 months or so).
Hanger No 1 at Avalon has been vacant since February and QF has been in negotiations with Fox to acquire it. I understand that they plan to put an extension on the front like some of the other hangers to fully enclose B744's and B773's. They will have a lot of capacity with the extra hangar.
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They wouldn't be spending the amount of money they are on hangar refurbs, including new docking, and new extended hour shift rosters only to shut Tullamarine down.
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I just wish that that some pr!ck in management would give us some idea so we can get on with planning our futures. All this secrecy is causing much angst. What's the point? What the f^ck do they think we're going to do if they announce their plans, quit or refuse to move, take our bats and balls and go home?
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My sources tell me that Dicko, (watching Branson's space exploits) picked up his phone, called the fatchick and said "Are you watching telly as well? Great, then have a look at channel 9... quick quick... We should do some of that too!"
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A few new rumours.... Base Maint and Line Sydney will be told their fate today... Heavy maint will find out in 2 weeks time..(why it's a secret I guess we will all find out.)
Hangar 96 is about to be refurb to accomadate the A380 ,door modifications and centre stantion moved etc so it looks like it is staying
Ultralights..What nose docking in H 96..Has been gone for years??
qfcainer... the requirement of knocking down the heavy maint hangers in syd went back years when the ex ansett finger became available.
Sunfish..the reason aircraft have A checks / maint in Sydney is because it is a hub. QANTAS has tried unsuccsessfully many times before to have A checks etc done out of sydney but any gains made are lost due to fuel/flying time lost doing a repositioning flight to the place of maint...
Boeing 777/787 apparently QF would purchase but dont have the cash to seal the deal plus ETOMS supplied the board with a statement that engineering might not be able to support the airline maint requirements during the introduction of 2 new aircraft types at the same time...A380 777
To those that know.. What is the refurb being done in Tulla Heavy hangar????(this must be good news)
Hangar 96 is about to be refurb to accomadate the A380 ,door modifications and centre stantion moved etc so it looks like it is staying
Ultralights..What nose docking in H 96..Has been gone for years??
qfcainer... the requirement of knocking down the heavy maint hangers in syd went back years when the ex ansett finger became available.
Sunfish..the reason aircraft have A checks / maint in Sydney is because it is a hub. QANTAS has tried unsuccsessfully many times before to have A checks etc done out of sydney but any gains made are lost due to fuel/flying time lost doing a repositioning flight to the place of maint...
Boeing 777/787 apparently QF would purchase but dont have the cash to seal the deal plus ETOMS supplied the board with a statement that engineering might not be able to support the airline maint requirements during the introduction of 2 new aircraft types at the same time...A380 777
To those that know.. What is the refurb being done in Tulla Heavy hangar????(this must be good news)
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Avalon staggers on , lots of quality issues and a bottomless pit for opex budget funds, run by country bumpkins.. kerry packer had his 'once in a lifetime' sucker in alan bond a la channel nine .. and lindsay fox has Qantas.. and just think QF could have had avalon for a mere 10 million bucks when ASTAS folded in 95..
Sydney HM seems to be dying a death by a thousand cuts,, but 1 line may survive to do 74 SA and C's.. only other wild card is A380 HM but rumour has it the board continues to knock back funds to convert 96 to take the aircraft...
Me thinks if you flick forward thru the pages to 2020... there will be rows of QF HM hangars at BNE.....Avalon will be a memory and SYD a line station only.... a brissy mate of mine says that multiplex engineers are already marching around with plans for new hangars under there arms.. watch out for the snakes
someone pls put us out of our misery..
Sydney HM seems to be dying a death by a thousand cuts,, but 1 line may survive to do 74 SA and C's.. only other wild card is A380 HM but rumour has it the board continues to knock back funds to convert 96 to take the aircraft...
Me thinks if you flick forward thru the pages to 2020... there will be rows of QF HM hangars at BNE.....Avalon will be a memory and SYD a line station only.... a brissy mate of mine says that multiplex engineers are already marching around with plans for new hangars under there arms.. watch out for the snakes
someone pls put us out of our misery..
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I guess everyone seems to believe engineering is the target of a pending announcement. Ask the guys and gals over at the pie shops how they are going? I have a number of close associates who work for QFCL and their knees are banging together louder than ever. They like all the ETOMS employees would just like to know what the hell is going on so they can plan their lives and move ahead.