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I hope SASCO dont take over QFs gingerbeering. It is the only time I have felt as though death was imminent when we picked up a plane from a SASCO major check. They obviously hadnt read the boeing instruction manual on how to put it back together after they pulled it apart.
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Why?
While this is a rumour forum, quite often the rumours are right on the money. So can we assume that this rumour is heading in the right direction?
In this case, one has to ask 'why' would any organization want to flog off to a foreign entity a centre of technical excellence, and one-of-a-kind in Australia? Would our Government, always so keen to flog its own assets and those of private corporations to foreigners, allow this to happen? This is quite germain when one overlays the Qantas facility with Australia' defence considerations. Does Canberra really care?
In this case, one has to ask 'why' would any organization want to flog off to a foreign entity a centre of technical excellence, and one-of-a-kind in Australia? Would our Government, always so keen to flog its own assets and those of private corporations to foreigners, allow this to happen? This is quite germain when one overlays the Qantas facility with Australia' defence considerations. Does Canberra really care?
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Well this is definately the way it seems to be going.
Slowly Qantas is sold off piece by piece to the lowest bidder, till all thats left is the name, which will sit as an umbrella over a group of smaller companies, at that point I expect the name will be sold off too...
Cheers, HH.
Slowly Qantas is sold off piece by piece to the lowest bidder, till all thats left is the name, which will sit as an umbrella over a group of smaller companies, at that point I expect the name will be sold off too...
Cheers, HH.
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Robert Crandell of a AA was remarked that the best airlines in the future will be the ones that dont operate any aircraft at all. Franchising all aperations to different parties specialising in certain areas such as short haul, long haul, engineering, ramp services, catering etc.
QF (and BA) appear to be slowly moving on such a direction.
QF (and BA) appear to be slowly moving on such a direction.
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And this place seems like a good place to gauge the reaction of the masses to any such notion.
Company Spy me thinks that has two meanings,
i ) spying on the company
or
ii) spying for the company.
I think it doesn't matter where we come from this type of company attitude is not acceptable. They ask for loyalty from the employees but offer none in return.
MAINTAIN THE RAGE.
Company Spy me thinks that has two meanings,
i ) spying on the company
or
ii) spying for the company.
I think it doesn't matter where we come from this type of company attitude is not acceptable. They ask for loyalty from the employees but offer none in return.
MAINTAIN THE RAGE.
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In this case, one has to ask 'why' would any organization want to flog off to a foreign entity a centre of technical excellence
Technical excellence?
Why so quick to write off anything "not Q"?
This could actually be a godsend. With their added capacity of the Q heavy lines and undisputable acumen, SQ through SASCO would undoubtedly grow the organisation past its mediocrity to what would be a true centre of excellence in the region.
Lets be realistic here, heavy has had numerous chances over the years to lead in the field and has fallen at the first hurdle. Business is business and we are in the business of aircraft maintenance (although you wouldn't know it) which we do badly.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
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Redstone what makes you think you know anything about Singapore? Sasco and SQ are two separate companies, there only link is they are based in the same country, and there are share holders who have shares in both companies.
In Singapore the two companies actually compete with each other for contracts.
Neither company would want to set up an MRO in Aus. when labour is so cheap in Asia. More to the point would be Qantas moving their maintenance out of Aus. but maintaining control, aviation engineering is the new big boom industry for the future.
Those with any vision are sinking money into engineering.
In Singapore the two companies actually compete with each other for contracts.
Neither company would want to set up an MRO in Aus. when labour is so cheap in Asia. More to the point would be Qantas moving their maintenance out of Aus. but maintaining control, aviation engineering is the new big boom industry for the future.
Those with any vision are sinking money into engineering.
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The proposed sale of QF engineering to SASCO (or another party) sounds like another farm being sold off. At what stage are the negotiations or is it simply floating the idea to change peoples thinking before the real events occur?
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there has always been backroom disscussions on the possiable sell off Qantas heavy maint facilities 5 sites in total to form a competetive GLOBAL MRO.- companies like SASCO and other instutional investors have been sounded out on various proposal's.
there is still much restructuring to take place before HM can be partly sold to form a joint venture MRO with QANTAS as the major share holder to retain control of its heavy maint requirements.
on another note VR in etoms is comming in the near future.
the oracle of life know's all.
there is still much restructuring to take place before HM can be partly sold to form a joint venture MRO with QANTAS as the major share holder to retain control of its heavy maint requirements.
on another note VR in etoms is comming in the near future.
the oracle of life know's all.
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What a hot load of B@ll Sh!t. Why would any resemblance of an engineering org. even consider merging with Sasco. Don't wait for the aircraft to fall out of the sky you may as well bury them now.
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If they really wanted to save money in Engineering , all they need to do is merge SIT & SDT under one management, think of the reduction in managers, secretaries & DMM's . Any one wanting to start an airline, now would be a good time with all these redundant shiny bums on the scrap heap.
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sport--they won't be merging SDT and SIT---
if anything it will be BASE MAINT and SIT that will join--
just because you lot in melbourn are being shafted dose not mean you can peddle your ideas around.
steady chaps W
if anything it will be BASE MAINT and SIT that will join--
just because you lot in melbourn are being shafted dose not mean you can peddle your ideas around.
steady chaps W
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quote: "could we suggest the major maint line in sydney is going to be made redundant in the near future due to it playing a minor role in the grand scheme of things, yet having an 80-90% lame/ame ratio ? and occupying expensive rental space.
avv will be the model of qf in the future, import overseas labour on 2 year working visas, dump them at the drop of a hat when they can save another $10000 by closing down/selling off another facility."
Yep. thats the future alright. AVV puts out a sh!t house product.
H/M Sydney consistently puts out good work on time.
Let's take the sh!t house product cause it could be cheaper.
Lets face it the passengers cant see under floor boards or behind toilets or inside panels so they'll keep paying to fly qf because they "know " our maintenance is the best.
In the long run cheap maintenance costs more.
avv will be the model of qf in the future, import overseas labour on 2 year working visas, dump them at the drop of a hat when they can save another $10000 by closing down/selling off another facility."
Yep. thats the future alright. AVV puts out a sh!t house product.
H/M Sydney consistently puts out good work on time.
Let's take the sh!t house product cause it could be cheaper.
Lets face it the passengers cant see under floor boards or behind toilets or inside panels so they'll keep paying to fly qf because they "know " our maintenance is the best.
In the long run cheap maintenance costs more.