QF Tech Crew F/A altercation cancels flight.
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The hotel staff are my source.The event was most distressing and embarassing for them.You don't need a degree to recognise apalling behaviour.
You have a few days to contemplate my specific instruction that no names, no initials, not even cap size was to be published in this thread which may identify anyone involved in the alleged incident!!!
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You have a few days to contemplate my specific instruction that no names, no initials, not even cap size was to be published in this thread which may identify anyone involved in the alleged incident!!!
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The hotel staff are my source.
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I lived in Japan for 9 years and my Japanese is as good as its get without being born there.On occasion I socialize with some of the hotel staff whom I consider friends.
I lived in Japan for 9 years and my Japanese is as good as its get without being born there.On occasion I socialize with some of the hotel staff whom I consider friends.
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D4, the identity of the captain is no secret in QF. I have flown with him in his three barred days. Is that enough information for you?
I have heard many versions of this story. Did the hotel staff you spoke to actually see what happened or is their info second or third hand?
No matter, the speculation on this thread is harmful to the concept of natural justice. You calling him psychotic without the benefit of a degree in mental health is a prime example of this. Keep the adjectives to yourself. Unless you actually saw the incident occur, any version you hear has been run through several filters.
I have heard many versions of this story. Did the hotel staff you spoke to actually see what happened or is their info second or third hand?
No matter, the speculation on this thread is harmful to the concept of natural justice. You calling him psychotic without the benefit of a degree in mental health is a prime example of this. Keep the adjectives to yourself. Unless you actually saw the incident occur, any version you hear has been run through several filters.
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The staff who are friends saw the event first hand.You need to understand Japanese culture to appreciate the enormous embarrassment this has caused the hotel its staff and indeed the QF staff at NRT airport.Japanese people generally do not exaggerate but rather understate.
I will restate this ..you do not need a degree to recognize appalling behaviour.If the Captain involved is a close personal friend(Borg) then I can appreciate your concern and embarrassment.
Opinions in this forum are unlikely to affect the carriage of natural justice.
I would suggest Borg that the information of which you are in posession has been through far more filters and most likely been diluted.If ,when the true story is known to you,you may wish to revaluate your impression of this individual.No one deserves to be the victim of such a violent attack.
I will restate this ..you do not need a degree to recognize appalling behaviour.If the Captain involved is a close personal friend(Borg) then I can appreciate your concern and embarrassment.
Opinions in this forum are unlikely to affect the carriage of natural justice.
I would suggest Borg that the information of which you are in posession has been through far more filters and most likely been diluted.If ,when the true story is known to you,you may wish to revaluate your impression of this individual.No one deserves to be the victim of such a violent attack.
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Had the misfortune to invite a QF cabin crew member to join my crew for drinks at a layover bar in SYD (QF fella commuting from sunny QLD) a few months ago. I think it took this twit about 30secs to let everyone know he spoke Japanese. He then went on to insult my entire crew (who averaged about three languages each including Japanese!). A good night out ruined by some self absorbed @rse. Wasn't you was it D4?
Too many of this type of person on any crew would surely lead to violence!
Don
Too many of this type of person on any crew would surely lead to violence!
Don
Too right D4. Lets get back to the topic.
The event happened for reason or reasons we do not know, and no not even your little cleaner mates will know what really happened. It is no doubt being investigated. Raising it on this forum helps no-one.
But giving away a persons identity, and making judgement calls on their personality type really achieves very little . If you want gossip spend some more time in the galley
Leave this matter to those concerned to worked out.
Don.
The event happened for reason or reasons we do not know, and no not even your little cleaner mates will know what really happened. It is no doubt being investigated. Raising it on this forum helps no-one.
But giving away a persons identity, and making judgement calls on their personality type really achieves very little . If you want gossip spend some more time in the galley
Leave this matter to those concerned to worked out.
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1. I have no idea what actually happened.
2. Neither do 99.9 % of the people reading this thread
3. The person involved is not a close friend or acquaintance.
4. Calling him psychotic when you weren't there is below the belt.
5. Whatever the circumstances, things are going to get unpleasant and potentially very costly for this person.
Discussing it ad nauseum when 99.9% of the people here have no idea of why it occurred is pointless or worse.
Here is another foreign word Schardenfreude. I suspect it is the prevailing sentiment here.
2. Neither do 99.9 % of the people reading this thread
3. The person involved is not a close friend or acquaintance.
4. Calling him psychotic when you weren't there is below the belt.
5. Whatever the circumstances, things are going to get unpleasant and potentially very costly for this person.
Discussing it ad nauseum when 99.9% of the people here have no idea of why it occurred is pointless or worse.
Here is another foreign word Schardenfreude. I suspect it is the prevailing sentiment here.
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Defcon it sounds like yer mate bit orf a bit more than he could chew an came orf second best.
In this world its a fact that sometimes men choose ta resolve these issues quickly if provoked far enough.
You tryin ta dafend yer mate because e came out of it on the loosin end, when he musta known that e was makin trouble fer himself, is pretty cowardly.
Be seein' youse round.
In this world its a fact that sometimes men choose ta resolve these issues quickly if provoked far enough.
You tryin ta dafend yer mate because e came out of it on the loosin end, when he musta known that e was makin trouble fer himself, is pretty cowardly.
Be seein' youse round.
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The smackee is not a friend.
There is however a principal and mode of behaviour involved .This thread has raised some interest with some 25000 hits since its inception.
There is however a principal and mode of behaviour involved .This thread has raised some interest with some 25000 hits since its inception.
No, DEFCON 4, not perfect - I wish! I'm merely saying that if you're going to correct someone - to emphasise your own point - you'd better make sure you're right in turn or it loses the desired effect somewhat.
My post was purely tongue-in-cheek btw. (note smiley)
My post was purely tongue-in-cheek btw. (note smiley)
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Looks like someone has run foul of Woomera.Did I miss something?The last 2 pages don't hang together well as far as continuity goes.Poop!I always miss the juicy bits.
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I don't think you missed anything, but one PPRuNe user, who is temporarily pre occupied, certainly did.
Heed my earlier advice...........
Woomera
Heed my earlier advice...........
Have your fun but keep it clean and keep individual names - no matter how oblique - out of it!