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OzJet to start with 767s
I've heard that Paul Stoddart's OzJet will begin flying in Australia this month using 767s in charter operations, with the launch of the airline happening at the time of the Melbourne Grand Prix. Sounds like the real thing.
Anyone care to enlighten?
Anyone care to enlighten?
Well a search of AOC holders on the CASA website does not show an entry for Ozjet or Oz Jet. So unless there is another company name that is trading as Ozjet then they do not appear to have an AOC as yet.
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Well, here we go again.
Is this another pipe dream run by so call experts to build the hopes and expectations up of the genuine professional pilot just like Australian Challenge Airways for example. They'll advertise to see who's available then you won't here from them again just like ACA. Next thing you will here rumours that they are winding up there business venture. A too familiar ring that seems to be common in the Australian Aviation industry. Just another one of those pipe dreams so don't get carried away.
Anyway, who is this crowd? What are their intentions? Where is the so called base? Are they a charter or scheduled dream? Where are they getting this 767 from? There's alot of competition round Aussy now to start a dream like this.
No A.O.C, sounds very suss for a start.
Is this another pipe dream run by so call experts to build the hopes and expectations up of the genuine professional pilot just like Australian Challenge Airways for example. They'll advertise to see who's available then you won't here from them again just like ACA. Next thing you will here rumours that they are winding up there business venture. A too familiar ring that seems to be common in the Australian Aviation industry. Just another one of those pipe dreams so don't get carried away.
Anyway, who is this crowd? What are their intentions? Where is the so called base? Are they a charter or scheduled dream? Where are they getting this 767 from? There's alot of competition round Aussy now to start a dream like this.
No A.O.C, sounds very suss for a start.
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Biggles factor!!
A few guys get together, normaly imbibing a few frothy's, and start to get imaginative.
Between them they can run an airline, and have a look how much people are paying for 1KG of freight. On a coaster, dry one of course-it's important, scribble that by how much their old chariot can hold and there you have it. All millionaires before too long. Who's In???
Freight, and later pax!?, will self load/unload, all flights will be full and nothing will ever go wrong.
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A few guys get together, normaly imbibing a few frothy's, and start to get imaginative.
Between them they can run an airline, and have a look how much people are paying for 1KG of freight. On a coaster, dry one of course-it's important, scribble that by how much their old chariot can hold and there you have it. All millionaires before too long. Who's In???
Freight, and later pax!?, will self load/unload, all flights will be full and nothing will ever go wrong.
End of the day collecting resume's.
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Not sure you can get an AOC without a registered company.
Go to ASIC Company Names Search and enter OzJet, Search and you'll see OzJet Airlines is deregistered.
Wasn't Stoddart planning a Moorabbin-Bankstown operation using 146-200's?
Slight issue with TODA, LDA and pavement strength might have proved a little embarrassing on day one. Never mind, at least there's a golf course at the northerly end of 34L at YMMB.
So where would these 767's supposedly ply their trade, if they were anything more than the figment of anyone's imagination?
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Go to ASIC Company Names Search and enter OzJet, Search and you'll see OzJet Airlines is deregistered.
Wasn't Stoddart planning a Moorabbin-Bankstown operation using 146-200's?
Slight issue with TODA, LDA and pavement strength might have proved a little embarrassing on day one. Never mind, at least there's a golf course at the northerly end of 34L at YMMB.
So where would these 767's supposedly ply their trade, if they were anything more than the figment of anyone's imagination?
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A few guys get together, normaly imbibing a few frothy's, and start to get imaginative.
i think icicles will start forming in hell before any airline owned by stoddart gets off the ground...
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Whilst I applaud your caution in becoming too involved in startup ventures without proper consideration of the risks, you also need to recognise that such startup ventures may also represent future employment opportunities for pilots and, therefore, startup entrepreneurs should generally be receiving encouragement from the aviation community to start up new air operations - not condemnation.
For all you know, Reg probably thought of starting Ansett when he was in a very imaginative mood "imbibing a few frothys" at his local during the 1930s, while his mates around him were criticising him for his "pipe dream". The rest is history as we know. I would venture to suggest that all of Australia's past and present airlines and charter operators (Butlers, Bain & Brown, Hazelton, Kendal etc etc) all once started as "pipe dreams" by their respective owners.
Which of you two has started, and operated, a successful business which provides employment opportunities for people?
The concept for my business also started when I was having a few beers at my pub, and I also had mates who thought I was having a pipe dream. If I backed down because of their criticism, I certainly wouldn't have the very successful business I now have, which employs some 30 technical staff.
On many occasions since the startup of my business, I also have had other "pipe dreams" to expand my business into other areas and to also offer my staff improved career opportunities in the process - some come off; some don't for a number of reasons. It's no shame if they don't come off; that's simply business. But at least I receive encouragement and thanks from my shareholders and staff for at least having a go on their behalf.
Aviation entrepreneurs are no different and, generally, are driven by the same shareholder, commercial and staffing concerns.
Is this another pipe dream ....etc
A few guys get together, normaly imbibing a few frothy's, and start to get imaginative.
For all you know, Reg probably thought of starting Ansett when he was in a very imaginative mood "imbibing a few frothys" at his local during the 1930s, while his mates around him were criticising him for his "pipe dream". The rest is history as we know. I would venture to suggest that all of Australia's past and present airlines and charter operators (Butlers, Bain & Brown, Hazelton, Kendal etc etc) all once started as "pipe dreams" by their respective owners.
Which of you two has started, and operated, a successful business which provides employment opportunities for people?
The concept for my business also started when I was having a few beers at my pub, and I also had mates who thought I was having a pipe dream. If I backed down because of their criticism, I certainly wouldn't have the very successful business I now have, which employs some 30 technical staff.
On many occasions since the startup of my business, I also have had other "pipe dreams" to expand my business into other areas and to also offer my staff improved career opportunities in the process - some come off; some don't for a number of reasons. It's no shame if they don't come off; that's simply business. But at least I receive encouragement and thanks from my shareholders and staff for at least having a go on their behalf.
Aviation entrepreneurs are no different and, generally, are driven by the same shareholder, commercial and staffing concerns.
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Just heard from the same person that Ozjet is in fact planning to start their operations using a BAe146 and not a 767. Don’t know where the whole 767 thing came from. Apparently after the launch at the grand prix they will conduct private charters (?) to raise public awareness with the 146 before starting RPT around July 2005.
As opposed to using $100,000,000 737s, the 146s are quite cheap, in fact, you could probably pick them up for a carton of Becks each. So they will be ahead in that respect. But I agree with others, if history is any guide their chances of long term success are low. But then again, Paul Stoddart’s no ordinary bloke.
Good luck to them nonetheless.
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As opposed to using $100,000,000 737s, the 146s are quite cheap, in fact, you could probably pick them up for a carton of Becks each. So they will be ahead in that respect. But I agree with others, if history is any guide their chances of long term success are low. But then again, Paul Stoddart’s no ordinary bloke.
Good luck to them nonetheless.
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Nothing like a busy colour scheme to get attention! Still, I'm sure if they are well maintained the 732's will be perfectly comfortable for people, other than me to fly on!
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Geeez fat albert flys again.
I am sure that was Flukey I saw him with in the lounge the other day?
eh eh it must be the aircraft they fly the Brits Rugby and Cricket teams around in
I am sure that was Flukey I saw him with in the lounge the other day?
eh eh it must be the aircraft they fly the Brits Rugby and Cricket teams around in
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an interesting news artical i found on the bankstown airport site
OZJET PASSENGER OPERATIONS AT BANKSTOWN AIRPORT
Bankstown Airport Chief Executive Officer, Kim Ellis today stated there are no immediate plans for OzJet to commence Regular Public Transport (RPT) from Bankstown Airport.
Bankstown Airport is currently preparing a Master Plan, which will govern the aviation operation of the Airport for the next 20 years. The community will have the opportunity to comment on any proposals for Regular Public Transport as part of the Master Plan process.
“We understand OzJet are considering a number of options with a range of airports along the eastern seaboard and Bankstown Airport is one of the Airports being considered by the company. However, no detail negotiations have been entered into by Bankstown Airport with OzJet,” said Mr Ellis.
Media information:
Meredith Laverty 0414-523-060
OZJET PASSENGER OPERATIONS AT BANKSTOWN AIRPORT
Bankstown Airport Chief Executive Officer, Kim Ellis today stated there are no immediate plans for OzJet to commence Regular Public Transport (RPT) from Bankstown Airport.
Bankstown Airport is currently preparing a Master Plan, which will govern the aviation operation of the Airport for the next 20 years. The community will have the opportunity to comment on any proposals for Regular Public Transport as part of the Master Plan process.
“We understand OzJet are considering a number of options with a range of airports along the eastern seaboard and Bankstown Airport is one of the Airports being considered by the company. However, no detail negotiations have been entered into by Bankstown Airport with OzJet,” said Mr Ellis.
Media information:
Meredith Laverty 0414-523-060
