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Old 23rd Feb 2005, 12:56
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Sorry Cap, they still fume and they will continue to do so.
The whole system is severely contaminated causing residue fumes. I really feel the operators of these airborne carcinogenic
piles of crap should have to prove they are safe to CASA rather than CASA having to prove they are not !
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Old 24th Feb 2005, 00:01
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P47,

That is your opinion, and based, I assume, on personal experience.

Whatever, I'm sure the people who fly them don't appreciate being called gutless bast@rds, as you blatently implied by this statement:
poor bastards who have to fly them because they have no intestinal fortitude by simply refusing to fly them!
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Old 24th Feb 2005, 19:03
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Al E. Vator you can add one more airline to your list of recent start-ups (Impulse jets and Virgin) that were claimed to not have a chance in hell of surviving by the armchair experts still posting their carefully considered opinions here. Maybe these experts should sign off their posted opinions with their own score so far.

Does anyone recall it being said in this forum that Rex wouldn't get off the ground, and when it did, that it wouldn't last 6 months ... then 12?

I'm glad some of us get behind these national initiatives ... eventually.
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Old 24th Feb 2005, 22:28
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V1OOPS.

Yes indeed you are correct. In fact I well recall one fat, agressive, unpleasant, retired Qantas fellow (who was also the head of an amateurish group of agressive private pilots), stating that Rex had no chance of being around in 6 months time.

Not only are they still around but they have outlasted said fat, aggressive fellow.
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Old 24th Feb 2005, 23:17
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Aforesaid fat unpleasant QF LH Cap'n wouldn't have initials BH would he?

If so, I shared the flight deck with him on a short sector in the red beercan dreaming. He was PF and I hafta say he could fly.

We were running late due to lost SLF ex-YSSY and were given two runway options to land at YMML. The best option, for a quick access to the International terminal, involved landing and stopping short of the runway intersection, which was accomplished by the book, by the numbers, and with astonishing precision for a fat old chap. OK, we were nicely underweight (hullwise) but it was crisp and accurate as you like. And we were back on time for disembarkation.

Looks, and sometimes personalities can be deceiving...

I was never sure about the filthy red baseball cap though, and the mo, thought it made him look like Skunk Baxter.


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Old 25th Feb 2005, 02:28
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Ozjet aircraft at Tulla

Noted the above nestled between Ansett hulks this morning. Being a B732 it make the freighters look modern...

Looks nice in it's colors though. Basically white, with a lot of black & blue at the back. Checkered flag tail looks cute and I suppose appropriate.

Found a picture ON THE NET...
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Old 25th Feb 2005, 02:40
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Dear Cap, I hope you understand my position on this topic is one of for the crews, however when the crews continue to fly these "THINGS" and continue to get "CROOK" because they do not have the "COURAGE " to stand up as a collective to the Companies and simply say "NO MORE THIS IS ENOUGH" I have little sympathy for them. Surely your health is worth that !
There is plenty of evidence to support this ongoing problem, and many pilots licences been lost on medical grounds also. I just hate to see it continuing.
I say again, "WHERE IS CASA?"
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Old 25th Feb 2005, 03:23
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Colour scheme is okay, but I dunno about those engines! They look kinda old.....
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Old 25th Feb 2005, 04:13
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There's no Z in OldJet!
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Old 25th Feb 2005, 04:45
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Sorry to break it to you P47, but the 146 has the best realiability in the QF group at the moment. (yes I know they are operated by NJS)

There have been no "incidents" for ages - stop bleating on about something that you obviously know nothing about. Oh yes, you read the Sydney Morning Herald.
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Old 25th Feb 2005, 05:34
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How many J class pax are there anyway
Wouldnt be many after you took out all the QF staff travellers.



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Old 25th Feb 2005, 07:03
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Fourth airline to hire hundreds in Melbourne

John Masanauskas
24feb05


HUNDREDS of jobs are expected to be created in Victoria with the launch of new airline OzJet.

Formula One team owner Paul Stoddart said yesterday that Melbourne would be the busiest port for his new business.
"It's personal for me because Melbourne is my home town, I was born here," he said.

OzJet maintenance will be done in the former Ansett facilities, creating more than 100 jobs when flights start mid-year.

But the airline will base flight crews in Melbourne and is expected to employ many more people as patronage grows.

Although the airline will nominally be based in Adelaide, 60 per cent of OzJet's initial flights will go through Melbourne and chief executive Hans van Pelt will live here.

Capacity constraints at Sydney airport gave Melbourne an advantage, Mr Stoddart said.

"Melbourne will be without doubt our busiest airport," he said.

State Tourism Minister John Pandazopoulos said OzJet was great news in the lead-up to the 2006 Commonwealth Games.

"Melbourne Airport's status as Australia's largest curfew-free airport and Victoria's highly skilled workforce have made us an attractive base for OzJet's maintenance operations," he said. As foreshadowed in the Herald Sun last November, OzJet will serve a niche business market after dumping plans to compete with low-cost carriers Jetstar and Virgin Blue.

OzJet will initially fly between Melbourne, Adelaide, Canberra and Sydney using 10 Boeing 737 and BAe146 aircraft.

Each plane would have only 60 business-style seats, giving passengers plenty of leg room. Seats would have ample recline for relaxing.

"We'll give you a full business class service at an economy price," Mr Stoddart said.

Passengers also faced shorter waiting time at airports by being allowed to carry more luggage into the cabin and because boarding would be quicker than on bigger jetliners, he said.

OzJet, which could be flying as early as June subject to regulatory approval, will have fully flexible fares allowing late passengers to board other flights without penalty.

Melbourne Airport CEO Chris Barlow said OzJet would join Virgin Blue and Regional Express in the south terminal.

Mr Barlow said he expected OzJet to find a niche in the competitive Melbourne-to-Sydney route, which is among the top five busiest aviation sectors in the world.

OzJet had originally intended to offer cheap fares between secondary airports such as Moorabbin and Bankstown in Sydney, but the entry of Jetstar into the market last year forced a strategy rethink.

Mr Stoddart, the F1 Minardi team boss, owns UK-based European Aviation, which operates 11 aircraft and is one of the world's biggest suppliers of spare parts.
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Old 25th Feb 2005, 07:10
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Okay then, where will the crews come from?

Will it be a case of pay for your own endorsement?
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Old 25th Feb 2005, 07:19
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Good on OzJet!

I'd just like to say OzJet has my full support!
I'm glad another airline is entering the market and that hopefully,
they'll "raise the bar" in what seems like an industry that has been
only trying to "cut costs" and get rid of services that made airline travel so
great in the first place. Yes there are many up and downs in any company starting up, but i think if we give it some support and the "benefit of the doubt", it might end up surprising us in what it does.
All it really needs to do is tap into the market where people are paying "full based fees" between capital cities and only economy class tickets, well....if u had the option to pay the same and get business class....wouldn't u go for it? I would...
anyways, Good on ya OzJet, and Hope the Best in the near future!
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Old 25th Feb 2005, 20:50
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Just for you...

Been flying in them for 10 years. Been flying them for 6 years. NEVER had a fumes incident. NEVER felt sick flying one. NEVER EVER had any pressure from the company to not bring defects to their attention. Quite the opposite really. Don't know any "crew's" who "continue to fly and get sick".

Now what's your actual experience with the type?
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Old 25th Feb 2005, 22:01
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That same aircraft was in Darwin last week for a tech stop whilst enroute from Denpasar to Melbourne, with pax that is - not a ferry flight.

Formula 1 is one thing, aviation is a whole different ball game.
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Old 25th Feb 2005, 22:13
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welcome back MIssy ...

I guess we'll all just have to wait and see, but I also have declined an offer of interview for a possie in their Ops cell.
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Old 25th Feb 2005, 22:18
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Icarus,
Will it be a case of pay for your own endorsement?
If you're already endorsed: does he pay you!?
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Old 26th Feb 2005, 00:45
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Formula 1 is one thing, aviation is a whole different ball game.
An amazing insight! You may like to have a read of their website. Mr Stoddart has plenty of experience in aviation in Europe in operations, spares and maintenance.

Try reading this...
http://www.ozjet.com.au/corp/about.aspx
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Old 26th Feb 2005, 01:17
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OzJet would join Virgin Blue and Regional Express in the south terminal
Does that mean DJ will finally be made to take down theuir sign out the front of the terminal?
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