View Poll Results: Should SQ be granted "open skies" to the Australian market
Yes
110
46.22%
No
122
51.26%
Undecided
6
2.52%
Voters: 238. This poll is closed
Should SQ be granted "open skies" to the Australian market
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It looks like Emirates want oart of the action aswell. If they get in aswell as SQ then Maybe Branson will want a chunk with Virgin Atlantic changing to say "Virgin Pacific?"
I havent had great experiences with QF myself lately especially on the LAX route. I would vote yes.
Sheep
P.S. Sold my shares last week
I havent had great experiences with QF myself lately especially on the LAX route. I would vote yes.
Sheep
P.S. Sold my shares last week
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The EK network ex DXB into Europe is just plain scary - Into all major European capitols, and into places like Nice, and Birmingham, Manchester, Heathrow and Gatwick and it just goes on and on.
Birmingham is a beauty. 45 minute connection time - EI DUB BHX and then EK with 45 minute minima - I avoid that and put them back a flight but it is there if needed.
I have a fair idea that the industry as a whole has no idea what a juggernaut EK actually is. We are finding that it is prudent to sell them more often than not. Price and schedule.
Time will tell of those who fell and who was left behind.
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The EK network ex DXB into Europe is just plain scary - Into all major European capitols, and into places like Nice, and Birmingham, Manchester, Heathrow and Gatwick and it just goes on and on.
Birmingham is a beauty. 45 minute connection time - EI DUB BHX and then EK with 45 minute minima - I avoid that and put them back a flight but it is there if needed.
I have a fair idea that the industry as a whole has no idea what a juggernaut EK actually is. We are finding that it is prudent to sell them more often than not. Price and schedule.
Time will tell of those who fell and who was left behind.
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Coming into this pretty late in the day and only got thu to page 2 before tiring of all the bleating - HOWEVER
Plas Tique - you da man - hit the nail right on the head. There are always lessons to be learned from history aren't there?
I think that overall the NZ public has benefited from the competition brought by overseas owned airline(s) flying domestic routes - something STILL NOT RECIPROCATED by our Western neighbours since the infamous fax episode.
I can't see any reason the Okker public wouldn't reap the same benefits with improvements to service and a reduction of fares.
If you have any faith in your aviation product then competition shouldn't scare you - brace up to it.
Plas Tique - you da man - hit the nail right on the head. There are always lessons to be learned from history aren't there?
I think that overall the NZ public has benefited from the competition brought by overseas owned airline(s) flying domestic routes - something STILL NOT RECIPROCATED by our Western neighbours since the infamous fax episode.
I can't see any reason the Okker public wouldn't reap the same benefits with improvements to service and a reduction of fares.
If you have any faith in your aviation product then competition shouldn't scare you - brace up to it.
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Perhaps Singapore Airlines and Emirates should apply for Auckland San Francisco and Los Angeles etc as well ..... good for competition. I am sure the public will benefit as you ship the last remaining vestige of NZ aviation off overseas, then you can all get back to doing what you do best with sheep
Perhaps Singapore Airlines and Emirates should apply for Auckland San Francisco and Los Angeles etc as well ..... good for competition. I am sure the public will benefit as you ship the last remaining vestige of NZ aviation off overseas, then you can all get back to doing what you do best with sheep
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Nice note at the end Skinny Dingo - keeping the standard of debate right up there ...
They've been and gone before - Continental, United, Pan Am, Canadian to name some I remember flew out of NZAA to the East, and there are a whole bunch going West right now - where's the problem?? If someone who can offer a better service than your own mob comes along then surely it's a bloody good reason to pick up your game and not put up the barricades and huddle in the middle of your mediocrity.
Have a good one
They've been and gone before - Continental, United, Pan Am, Canadian to name some I remember flew out of NZAA to the East, and there are a whole bunch going West right now - where's the problem?? If someone who can offer a better service than your own mob comes along then surely it's a bloody good reason to pick up your game and not put up the barricades and huddle in the middle of your mediocrity.
Have a good one
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With the open skys policy in NZ any carrier can operate to and from nz to the states.
We dont hide behind the goverment to protect us from competition.I think you will find the two carriers you mention are already looking at this so maybe Qf will get pushed out of SYD/AKL/LAX by superior product and service.
With the open skys policy in NZ any carrier can operate to and from nz to the states.
We dont hide behind the goverment to protect us from competition.I think you will find the two carriers you mention are already looking at this so maybe Qf will get pushed out of SYD/AKL/LAX by superior product and service.
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We dont hide behind the goverment to protect us from competition.
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I would say they would still step in probably with financial support and I dare say if QF the national carrier of australia was going the same way CBR would step in also, but that does not alter the fact that the NZ gov has an open skies policy that allows other airlines to compete against them on any route and not keep it purely for themselves.
