Plane Torture, say Passengers (Jetstar)
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It seems Jetstar pax don't read the back of their tickets. It states in plain english that Jetstar will "try" and get you to your destination on the day and time planned, but there is no comeback if they don't. And NO refunds will be considered. Wonderful business model!
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knackeredII -
You will find those terms in on almost every airline's Conditions of Carriage. Some airlines choose to offer customers more compensation than others.
For the most part JQ will get you to your destination on time and in one piece, bags attached... And they do it cheaply. That of course doesn't sell news stories!
Shame about the communication at Tulla. Pretty poor effort by the sounds of it! Watch out for some new policy or procedure to be implemented soon so as to avoid this problem next time... Reactive management sure is cheap but puts employees and customers offside. Why oh why can't potential problems be avoided BEFORE they occur?! Is it asking too much?
You will find those terms in on almost every airline's Conditions of Carriage. Some airlines choose to offer customers more compensation than others.
For the most part JQ will get you to your destination on time and in one piece, bags attached... And they do it cheaply. That of course doesn't sell news stories!
Shame about the communication at Tulla. Pretty poor effort by the sounds of it! Watch out for some new policy or procedure to be implemented soon so as to avoid this problem next time... Reactive management sure is cheap but puts employees and customers offside. Why oh why can't potential problems be avoided BEFORE they occur?! Is it asking too much?
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Been saying it all along, you take a bunch of guys that couldn't get into a a professional airline in Aus, add no seniority list, low pay and the catalyst for pay for training and what do you get? An infection in the industry worse than galloping knob rot, the impulse infection.
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Oh yes of course and there is only one "professional" airline in Australia right pete? Just take a look at how that "professional" airline is treating its staff right now. Perhaps those of us that have CHOSEN not to work for the "professional" outfit have a little more insight than some.
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Thats enough!
.......or..........maybe for whatever reason, these boys n girls couldn't get at shot at "Q" and took whatever they could to get their dream job. Maybe they've got families to worry about, kids to feed and school, bills to pay and don't have the time nor career opportunities left for any number of reasons, to take a moralistic stand against the man....so to speak!
maybe......just maybe......they and their ilk NEED (unfortunately IMHO), quite badly at this point in time the so called PROFESSIONAL group of pilots currently inhabiting various red coloured flight decks to show some courage and stand up to Dixon and his type and stop the bollocks thats going on right now.
What about you Pete?.........Assuming that you're a Rat rider....what the hell was that last pay increase?!!!!.......3%.....are you kidding!!!!????
Is that how a "PROFESSIONAL" conducts and applies his/hers industrial relations!!!!.
Gimmee a break.........
Maybe you Southern Highland/Manly/Cronulla/Baulkham Hills Shire etc dwelling nitwits need to do some REAL hard yards and change the future of this industry!....
Oh sorry...What was that you say???.....been offered a management and first officer possie now........what was that you say......moving from the squalid flat living with your parents in Carlingford into new digs (thanks to ANZ) down at Maroubra/Manly/Glamarama et al,.....well well....wouldn't want to upset those apples now would we Pete old son....Cadet were you?...
Listen Petey boy, Snauzer etc........the reason those people are where they are and doing it tough is directly attributable to whining little nancy boys such as your dear selves that inhabited GA paying for time, working for nothing and once in the place where they could something....didn't.
!......goodness knows I've met enough of them!!!!......the ONLY way that airline both minor and major is going to change is if somebody high up in the chain has the balls to get up and do something drastic.........By the way......have there been any Jetstar/Virgin aircraft landing on any golf courses lately?
maybe......just maybe......they and their ilk NEED (unfortunately IMHO), quite badly at this point in time the so called PROFESSIONAL group of pilots currently inhabiting various red coloured flight decks to show some courage and stand up to Dixon and his type and stop the bollocks thats going on right now.
What about you Pete?.........Assuming that you're a Rat rider....what the hell was that last pay increase?!!!!.......3%.....are you kidding!!!!????
Is that how a "PROFESSIONAL" conducts and applies his/hers industrial relations!!!!.
Gimmee a break.........
Maybe you Southern Highland/Manly/Cronulla/Baulkham Hills Shire etc dwelling nitwits need to do some REAL hard yards and change the future of this industry!....
Oh sorry...What was that you say???.....been offered a management and first officer possie now........what was that you say......moving from the squalid flat living with your parents in Carlingford into new digs (thanks to ANZ) down at Maroubra/Manly/Glamarama et al,.....well well....wouldn't want to upset those apples now would we Pete old son....Cadet were you?...
Listen Petey boy, Snauzer etc........the reason those people are where they are and doing it tough is directly attributable to whining little nancy boys such as your dear selves that inhabited GA paying for time, working for nothing and once in the place where they could something....didn't.
!......goodness knows I've met enough of them!!!!......the ONLY way that airline both minor and major is going to change is if somebody high up in the chain has the balls to get up and do something drastic.........By the way......have there been any Jetstar/Virgin aircraft landing on any golf courses lately?
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I don't know if anyone else saw the photo of the " tortured famliy" in the Herald Sun . I know I shouldn't judge a book by it's cover but they looked like a library full of bush pigs.
Does jetstar now have booking offices at centrelink ?
Does jetstar now have booking offices at centrelink ?
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PureRisk. A new entrant in the lets see who can get away with the most abuse contest. Kinda funny really. Having worked overseas I can strongy vouch for the guys I work with. You are obviously a "Tough Guy " youngster.
As for professionalism Im sure I dont need to mention bangkok, Darwin, Canberra, Sydney ( alignment problems?). Im sure I dont need to go on. Just remember. Fold those maps well and please hop out of the seat by 10000.
Things havent really changed in this country in the last 16 years have they?
DM
As for professionalism Im sure I dont need to mention bangkok, Darwin, Canberra, Sydney ( alignment problems?). Im sure I dont need to go on. Just remember. Fold those maps well and please hop out of the seat by 10000.
Things havent really changed in this country in the last 16 years have they?
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Careful, DM. There but for the grace of God go I.... 'an all that stuff.
Nahhhh, sirjfp. It's just their pilots that hang about there....!
Thats buzzy's way of saying "I was rejected 'cos I'm short several chromosones".
Does jetstar now have booking offices at centrelink ?
Perhaps those of us that have CHOSEN not to work for the "professional" outfit have a little more insight than some.
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Schnauser, exactly. Thats what I have been thinking recently. Unfortunately most of the posters on this forum that are involved in Jetstar debates are only interested in deriding the charater of fellow pilots. Most of whom they havent even met. Quite frankly, It paints a poor picture of airline ops in Aus. Most pilots being somewhat educated, could probably understand the actual input into the running and management descisions, that line pilots have. PRACTICALY NONE.
Of course though, the problems that jetstar has, as any airline has, are in your chidlike eyes are the pilots fault.
To hang your hat on an outdated and subjective testing sequence only highlights your ignorance as to what makes a good pilot. I doubt that you even work for any sort of airline, as an attitude such as yours would usually be picked up and quickly discarded in a proper interview process.
At the end of the day, it doesnt matter what school you went to, what cadet course you attended, how much you earn, what golf club you are a member of or how good at bagging other pilots you are.
It comes down to how you operate the plane and get on with others.
If you were flying me some where, Id dissembark and take the train.
DM
Of course though, the problems that jetstar has, as any airline has, are in your chidlike eyes are the pilots fault.
To hang your hat on an outdated and subjective testing sequence only highlights your ignorance as to what makes a good pilot. I doubt that you even work for any sort of airline, as an attitude such as yours would usually be picked up and quickly discarded in a proper interview process.
At the end of the day, it doesnt matter what school you went to, what cadet course you attended, how much you earn, what golf club you are a member of or how good at bagging other pilots you are.
It comes down to how you operate the plane and get on with others.
If you were flying me some where, Id dissembark and take the train.
DM
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Interesting question Big jan. I guess they would have to be included. But hang on, they have passed the pegs and blocks test. This would also be the case for the EAA recruits.
Where on earth could this all be leading?. If I had anything more than a primary school education, I might be able to work it out on my own. Without copying anyone elses work!
Perhaps they did too well on the testing?
Struggling to read my own posts, DM
Where on earth could this all be leading?. If I had anything more than a primary school education, I might be able to work it out on my own. Without copying anyone elses work!
Perhaps they did too well on the testing?
Struggling to read my own posts, DM
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You guys are the most pathetic bunch I have ever encountered in the world of professional aviation (and I use the word "professional" very loosely). Not only the morons who do the fishing (PC, Schnauzer), but also those dumb enough to "bite". No wonder this profession is being further devalued everyday.
It's a nice day outside! Have you nothing better to do than slag each other off on a friggin' internet forum? Jesus H Christ! Get a life you sad, sad tossers.
It's a nice day outside! Have you nothing better to do than slag each other off on a friggin' internet forum? Jesus H Christ! Get a life you sad, sad tossers.
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Thats buzzy's way of saying "I was rejected 'cos I'm short several chromosones".
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