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Crack grounds NZ Hercules in Indonesia
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Crack grounds NZ Hercules in Indonesia
31 December 2004
A New Zealand air force Hercules sent to Indonesia to help after the killer tsunami struck there on Sunday has been grounded after a crack was found in the manifold, the Defence Force said tonight.
The air force has had the Hercules since the 1960s, a spokeswoman told NZPA.
"The Hercules in unserviceable at the moment. A small crack was found in the manifold of the aircraft, which means it can't fly."
A New Zealand maintenance team was working on the aircraft tonight and trying to source a new part from Indonesia or further afield, the spokeswoman said.
"They may try to get a part flown out from New Zealand.
"The aircraft should be back flying by tomorrow."
Meanwhile, the plane's flight crew and a New Zealand medic who was flown over on the Hercules were working with Indonesian authorities to co-ordinate rescue efforts. Nearly 80,000 people have been killed in that country.
"They're still busy, even though they're not in the air," the spokeswoman said.
The Hercules left New Zealand earlier this week and waited in the Australian city of Darwin for further instructions.
It arrived just outside Jakarta late on Wednesday night.
The Defence Force spokeswoman told NZPA the Hercules had not been scheduled to return to New Zealand for about a week, and was to have been used for transportation of aid around Indonesia during that time.
It is not the first time New Zealand aircraft on aid missions have been hampered by problems.
In 2002, a New Zealand air force Hercules bound for Bali to help in post-bombing operations was grounded in Darwin because of a cracked windscreen. Another Hercules was grounded in Brisbane for two days for repairs.
The Defence Force spokeswoman said a total of about 10 New Zealand staff had flown to Indonesia on the Hercules.
Another New Zealand team of police, body identification and body recovery specialists and Defence Force staff flew from Darwin to Thailand today on an air force 757.
About 4500 people have been killed in Thailand, more than 2200 of them foreigners.
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Sat "Melbourne Age"
More helicopters for relief
Defence personnel today began loading a Russian Antonov jet freighter which will leave Queensland for Jakarta tomorrow with three army Iroquois helicopters plus support staff and other aid.
Another Antonov is expected to leave Sydney on Monday carrying a mobile field hospital with capacity for 55 beds, as well as an extra Iroquois.
The Australian Defence Force is setting up headquarters in Medan on the west coast of Sumatra, about 500km from the ravaged Banda Aceh, to coordinate the relief effort.
Apart from the Antonovs, HMAS Kanimbla set sail from Sydney yesterday with about 300 sailors, aircrew, medical staff and army personnel onboard to begin the rebuilding process.
Defence Minister Robert Hill said the post in Medan would help defence personnel plan the distribution of aid and the best placement of Australians helping in relief efforts.
"We are already witnessing a logjam at key airfields and we need to ensure that we can get essential aid, supplies and assistance into the affected areas as quickly as possible," Senator Hill said.
Mr Downer said while aid was getting to key locations, there were problems distributing it to the people most in need.
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Crack grounds NZ Hercules in Indonesia
31 December 2004
A New Zealand air force Hercules sent to Indonesia to help after the killer tsunami struck there on Sunday has been grounded after a crack was found in the manifold, the Defence Force said tonight.
The air force has had the Hercules since the 1960s, a spokeswoman told NZPA.
"The Hercules in unserviceable at the moment. A small crack was found in the manifold of the aircraft, which means it can't fly."
A New Zealand maintenance team was working on the aircraft tonight and trying to source a new part from Indonesia or further afield, the spokeswoman said.
"They may try to get a part flown out from New Zealand.
"The aircraft should be back flying by tomorrow."
Meanwhile, the plane's flight crew and a New Zealand medic who was flown over on the Hercules were working with Indonesian authorities to co-ordinate rescue efforts. Nearly 80,000 people have been killed in that country.
"They're still busy, even though they're not in the air," the spokeswoman said.
The Hercules left New Zealand earlier this week and waited in the Australian city of Darwin for further instructions.
It arrived just outside Jakarta late on Wednesday night.
The Defence Force spokeswoman told NZPA the Hercules had not been scheduled to return to New Zealand for about a week, and was to have been used for transportation of aid around Indonesia during that time.
It is not the first time New Zealand aircraft on aid missions have been hampered by problems.
In 2002, a New Zealand air force Hercules bound for Bali to help in post-bombing operations was grounded in Darwin because of a cracked windscreen. Another Hercules was grounded in Brisbane for two days for repairs.
The Defence Force spokeswoman said a total of about 10 New Zealand staff had flown to Indonesia on the Hercules.
Another New Zealand team of police, body identification and body recovery specialists and Defence Force staff flew from Darwin to Thailand today on an air force 757.
About 4500 people have been killed in Thailand, more than 2200 of them foreigners.
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Sat "Melbourne Age"
More helicopters for relief
Defence personnel today began loading a Russian Antonov jet freighter which will leave Queensland for Jakarta tomorrow with three army Iroquois helicopters plus support staff and other aid.
Another Antonov is expected to leave Sydney on Monday carrying a mobile field hospital with capacity for 55 beds, as well as an extra Iroquois.
The Australian Defence Force is setting up headquarters in Medan on the west coast of Sumatra, about 500km from the ravaged Banda Aceh, to coordinate the relief effort.
Apart from the Antonovs, HMAS Kanimbla set sail from Sydney yesterday with about 300 sailors, aircrew, medical staff and army personnel onboard to begin the rebuilding process.
Defence Minister Robert Hill said the post in Medan would help defence personnel plan the distribution of aid and the best placement of Australians helping in relief efforts.
"We are already witnessing a logjam at key airfields and we need to ensure that we can get essential aid, supplies and assistance into the affected areas as quickly as possible," Senator Hill said.
Mr Downer said while aid was getting to key locations, there were problems distributing it to the people most in need.
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What do you know:
The part number of the U/S part?
Its manufacture date?
Its total time in service?
Most likely the part is not the same age as the aircraft and is just a typical aircraft defect.
What do you know:
The part number of the U/S part?
Its manufacture date?
Its total time in service?
Most likely the part is not the same age as the aircraft and is just a typical aircraft defect.
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In response to another natural disaster elsewhere overseas some years ago, 3 RAAF C130s rocked up with a payload of choppers, etc. Once the humanitarian job was done they packed the choppers back inside, cranked up the Allisons and oops ... one wouldn't start.
No matter, two got away OK and the crook one waited a day or two for another C130 to arrive with a spare Allison on board. This was swapped on the hot tropical tarmac and in due course engine runs showed it was ready to fly back to Oz. All the scaffolds and tools (and a chopper) were packed back into both C130s and they prepared to leave.
Double Oops!
The 'rescue' C130 couldn't get one of its engines running! With cunning foresight to leave the crane, scaffolds and a socket set where they might need it next, they sent the repaired C130 (with a chopper still inside) back to get yet another engine from Oz. ... which it did.
I guess there was much rejoicing on board when the last one finally cranked up and all C130s got away OK
Phew!
No matter, two got away OK and the crook one waited a day or two for another C130 to arrive with a spare Allison on board. This was swapped on the hot tropical tarmac and in due course engine runs showed it was ready to fly back to Oz. All the scaffolds and tools (and a chopper) were packed back into both C130s and they prepared to leave.
Double Oops!
The 'rescue' C130 couldn't get one of its engines running! With cunning foresight to leave the crane, scaffolds and a socket set where they might need it next, they sent the repaired C130 (with a chopper still inside) back to get yet another engine from Oz. ... which it did.
I guess there was much rejoicing on board when the last one finally cranked up and all C130s got away OK
Phew!
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NZAF Hercules Manifold
Presume the manifold was the bleed air manifold probably with a mini crack somewhere. If so why not some ANZAC ingenuity?
Normal engine starts use manifold bleed air. If the leak from the crack remains insignificant then start engines normally, close off the bleeds and get out of the way of all the other loads inbound you are preventing. If the manifold leak is too bad then do buddy starts with another Hercules. Then go someplace else unpressurised to be fixed.
Every Hercules load will be saving many lives so keep them moving.
Presume the manifold was the bleed air manifold probably with a mini crack somewhere. If so why not some ANZAC ingenuity?
Normal engine starts use manifold bleed air. If the leak from the crack remains insignificant then start engines normally, close off the bleeds and get out of the way of all the other loads inbound you are preventing. If the manifold leak is too bad then do buddy starts with another Hercules. Then go someplace else unpressurised to be fixed.
Every Hercules load will be saving many lives so keep them moving.
Evertonian
Old planes (cars,trucks,lawnmowers) breakdown...so friggin' what?
The tragedy is that it might delay further relief efforts on the Kiwis part.
So they haven't got a C130J...again, so friggin' what? It seems anything that has to do with the Tsunami is headline news and considering that there are far more important issues that the world has to deal with, I don't think a cracked manifold is very pertinant right now!
At least they were there.
The tragedy is that it might delay further relief efforts on the Kiwis part.So they haven't got a C130J...again, so friggin' what? It seems anything that has to do with the Tsunami is headline news and considering that there are far more important issues that the world has to deal with, I don't think a cracked manifold is very pertinant right now!
At least they were there.
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Friggin Great! Every country in the region busting their collective balls to provide whatever relief and assistance they can and what do we get? Some dim witted, excess to requirement journo sniffing around an airport finds a Herc with the cowlings off. So What.
Get a life you journo low lifes and go out and do what your editor and newspaper / television station or whatever is paying you to do, report on the tragedy. Not come up with this crap to justify your airfares and per diem.
OK I feel better now. Off to check out the The Lazy Journalists Plane Story Generator
Get a life you journo low lifes and go out and do what your editor and newspaper / television station or whatever is paying you to do, report on the tragedy. Not come up with this crap to justify your airfares and per diem.
OK I feel better now. Off to check out the The Lazy Journalists Plane Story Generator
Keep your hair on Buster.
Nobody is doubting the professionalism and efforts of the NZ military.
It is bringing to attention the wanton neglect of the NZ defence forces by Helen Clarke.
This tragedy reinforces the neccessity of modern and effective defence resources.
The combat wing was disposed of with assurances of upgrading transport and helicopter capabilities- both superb disaster relief platforms. Are there any operational Kiwi helicopters? Hercs down to 3?
A wake up call. Next time it maybe a shooting match. New Zealand nationals will be totally reliant on Australian & Americans to rescue them in future regional conflicts, skirmishes and terrorism scenarios.
Nobody is doubting the professionalism and efforts of the NZ military.
It is bringing to attention the wanton neglect of the NZ defence forces by Helen Clarke.
This tragedy reinforces the neccessity of modern and effective defence resources.
The combat wing was disposed of with assurances of upgrading transport and helicopter capabilities- both superb disaster relief platforms. Are there any operational Kiwi helicopters? Hercs down to 3?
A wake up call. Next time it maybe a shooting match. New Zealand nationals will be totally reliant on Australian & Americans to rescue them in future regional conflicts, skirmishes and terrorism scenarios.
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3 January 2005
A New Zealand Air Force Hercules is embarking on its fourth mission to the tsunami-ravaged Indonesian region of Aceh today.
The Hercules has already taken filtration equipment, milk products, rice and 16,000 pounds of freight to the area.
It has flown 16 Indonesian Red Cross workers into the area and moved 33 displaced locals out of Aceh.
Meanwhile a Boeing 757 will leave Malaysia for Richmond Air Base in Australia.
It will work in conjunction with the Australian Air Force, airlifting personnel and equipment from Australia to Indonesia.
Eighteen members of the Defence Force medical team have arrived in Malaysia. The rest of the team on board a second Hercules is on the way to the area.
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3 January 2005
A New Zealand Air Force Hercules is embarking on its fourth mission to the tsunami-ravaged Indonesian region of Aceh today.
The Hercules has already taken filtration equipment, milk products, rice and 16,000 pounds of freight to the area.
It has flown 16 Indonesian Red Cross workers into the area and moved 33 displaced locals out of Aceh.
Meanwhile a Boeing 757 will leave Malaysia for Richmond Air Base in Australia.
It will work in conjunction with the Australian Air Force, airlifting personnel and equipment from Australia to Indonesia.
Eighteen members of the Defence Force medical team have arrived in Malaysia. The rest of the team on board a second Hercules is on the way to the area.
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Nah, we sold them off. The C-MK1 Andover. I think they're in Africa somewhere.
Helen has $6.6 Billion surplus in her coffers. She could buy whatever she wanted. As long as it's femimine (in a mascuelin(?) sorta way) and has nothing to do with Armed Conflict!
She can't sell the Skyhawks 'cause the US State Dept. wont let her "'cause we don't play with them in their world sized sandpit!".
Nah, we sold them off. The C-MK1 Andover. I think they're in Africa somewhere.
Helen has $6.6 Billion surplus in her coffers. She could buy whatever she wanted. As long as it's femimine (in a mascuelin(?) sorta way) and has nothing to do with Armed Conflict!
She can't sell the Skyhawks 'cause the US State Dept. wont let her "'cause we don't play with them in their world sized sandpit!".
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"I didn’t think NZ could afford/had an Airforce anymore? Still, good to see third world nations trying to help other third world nations."
It's good to see you are up on what’s happening around the area. Perhaps your are still looking for those weapons of mass destruction. Good to see first world nations keeping third world nations safe (keep searching those WMD must be there).
"I didn’t think NZ could afford/had an Airforce anymore? Still, good to see third world nations trying to help other third world nations."
It's good to see you are up on what’s happening around the area. Perhaps your are still looking for those weapons of mass destruction. Good to see first world nations keeping third world nations safe (keep searching those WMD must be there).