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Old 13th Dec 2004, 03:45
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Exclamation Virgin Blue Pax Dress Standards

Just recieved an email from Virgin Blue confirming my flight details, there is a small section advising me of the minimum dress standards expected;

Footwear (thongs acceptable)
Shorts
Shirt (singlet acceptable)
No clothing displaying offensive language or symbols.

The only places I have seen a dress code like this are fast food restaurants "No shirt, no shoes, no service"

What kind of people are flying these days that have to be told to dress UP into thongs and a singlet ? Fancy an emergency evacuation without proper shoes anyone ?

I can remember staff travel dress codes that prohibited jeans, trainers and T shirts even in economy. If business or first class was expected than a shirt and tie was mandatory.

Prehaps the residents of Hamilton Island have a point complaining about Jetstar.
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You'd be surprised at the people who don't wear any footwear!! Delayed a flight once because Dad and the two daughters didn't have shoes on!!

Some people don't deserve to fly.
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No disrespect intended, but what point are you trying to get across? What dress code would you prefer? Don't forget that a lot of people who travel on the low cost carriers (worldwide) are often first time travellers, who as far as they are concerned dress standards on bus are similar to what you would wear on an aircraft. They dont think in airline terminology and dont possess an aviation mindset - they are thinking "I have 2 1/2 hours with the kids trapped inside a shiny metal tube, what can we all wear that will be most comfortable for us".

Flying is no longer limited to the wealthy few, it has not been for quite some time now, and as long as people are wearing clothes that are adequately protective and non-offensive, then I fail to see any problem (although the one thing I will agree with is I would like to see closed in shoes a standard requirement).

Or perhaps you can turn the coin - what about all those extrememly expensive (read: overpriced) FCUK shirts etc? They are dressy, expensive blah blah, but no doubt considered offensive by a lot of australians (particularly older generations)?

[Edit: I would like to see a standard dress code of at least smart casual attire, but realistically it unfortunately just cannot be expected]
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OK, Virgin Blue is a low cost carrier, flying alot of leisure travellers to holiday resorts in hot tropical places where smart casual would be a bit uncomfortable. I can see nothing wrong with people dressing appropriately for the climate.

But surely people shouldn't need to be told to actually wear a shirt (without offensive writing on it) and footwear. Would you like to spend two hours sitting next to a bare chested yob with no shoes on ?
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Yes, Metrosexual, yes they do need to be told to wear shoes and shirts. Just visit North Queensland and you will understand.
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While I basically agree with dress standards, having decent shoes for an emergency evacuation is a little pointless.

Unless things have changed lately, you have to take them off anyway.
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Actually its not that big a deal "metro".
Infact is it not better to say whats required than to get to the airport and whinge they haven't been told?

Also I think you will find that this has all probably come about because it obviously does offend most people (i.e foul language etc on shirts). Really its not unreasonable. Especially when you think overall its still a pretty relaxed dressed standard.

Jetstar however.........geeezzzz, got off one flight the other day and could proabably count 3 people in the lounge with no shirts and wearing thongs. (yes true, however it was cooly)
I think they are more the type also that relish the charge for a seat philosophy that they are use to when usually travelling greyhound. (Arrrr what a classy airline jetstar is)
I for one know if I am going to travel low cost it will be Virgin....
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I can remember staff travel dress codes that prohibited jeans, trainers and T shirts even in economy.
Yeah yeah... I can remeber lots of irrelevant crap also. Im sure if u ask your grandad he can tell you about milkmen and ice chests.

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Not in oztrailia my self; but have seen people wearing very odd things on board aeroplanes. Theres those that wander around the toilets with no shoes, those with no clothes on their upper body (male), and last but certainly not least, the pregnant girl wearing shorts and a string bikini top when we were going back to the UK, expecting 1 foot of snow on arrival. (And no she didnt have any other clothes)!!
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Old 13th Dec 2004, 10:04
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Planemad2. You don't have to take off your shoes in an emergency evacuation - in fact you would be crazy to do so due the possibility of trying to escape over jagged metal and maybe even burning debris. In one accident in Spain where people were told to discard shoes, several passengers were so seriously disabled by traumatic foot injuries caused by ripped metal on the ground that they were caught in the fire. Maybe a different story if you are wearing stilleto shoes which might puncture the slides (or dinghy) - but that becomes your problem.
 
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Gidday,

Singapore Airlines are now telling you to keep your shoes on for takeoff and landing in the revamped vidio, featuring the ex DFO Training as the lead.

You will need your best footwear to run away from a serious accident as said before, the debris from any hull damage can be life threatening, even IN the Aircrafy if it breaks up.

As for dress codes, even in Internation J class the yobbo element is there, hate sitting next to the hairy armpit brigade, unwashed and rude as well.

Have done 13 International sectors and 2 domestic this year and it is a reflection of the times I guess, some people need to be on a leash when out they really do.

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I reckon that no one item of clothing should be allowed to cost more than your ticket. remember those 50c tickets to go to the Ansett meetings?
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At least the majority of VB pax look better dressed than the VB pilots. Without doubt theirs is the most unprofessional pilots uniform I have ever seen.


Correct your profile email address!

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Apart from an operators Ops Manual, is there any regulation that states a crew member must wear shoes?
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No doubt you are an expert on "professionalism" Interceptor?
I bet you get to make all the remarks from the fence, scanner in one hand, Coke in the other!

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Old 14th Dec 2004, 05:30
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Menen,

Planemad2. You don't have to take off your shoes in an emergency evacuation - in fact you would be crazy to do so due the possibility of trying to escape over jagged metal and maybe even burning debris.
What I said was..............

Unless things have changed lately, you have to take them off anyway.
I agree it is crazy, however that was the instructions for the last 40 years or so, take off your shoes and put them in the seat pocket in front of you.

It must have changed recently, for the better.

Best regards,

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Doesn't take much for you to show your true colours Mr Buzzy.

I agree. The VB uniform is absolutely tragic and looks more like Aust Customs Service.

Maybe that is one difference between an aviator and a pilot...
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Ok so what would you suggest One Ball?
Let me guess.... Blue pants, white shirt? Gee that really sets them aside from every other Tom Dick and Harry.

As far as hats go.....Please...spare me!


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and last but certainly not least, the pregnant girl wearing shorts and a string bikini top when we were going back to the UK, expecting 1 foot of snow on arrival. (And no she didnt have any other clothes)!!
I didn't realise trailer parks had penetrated into the UK
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planemad2

however that was the instructions for the last 40 years or so, take off your shoes and put them in the seat pocket in front of you.
The instruction is (and has been for at least 25 years in the last two airlines I have worked for in Oz) to take High-heeled shoes off..... low heeled shoes like sneakers/thongs etc can stay on ..... the high heels are a 'puncture-hazard' to slides ....
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