ALAEA (LAME'S) call for stop work.
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ALAEA (LAME'S) call for stop work.
Can anybody shed any light on the rumor I heard yesterday that all Qantas LAME's (Syd.) wanted to walk of the job last Friday. I have a feeling it was nothing to do with their EBA negotiations, the few I spoke to were very animated and I thought I was going home again.
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I was at work yesterday when a Syd Lame called with the details. Some background may be needed.
A number of younger active lame reps from Melbourne and Sydney have initiated a takeover of the ALAEA Executive. The old gaurd that seems to achieve very little for the membership can see the writing on the wall have dug in their heels. A vacant position recently contested on the Executive saw the takeover team candidate outpoll the old gard rep by 2 1/2 to 1.
In a desperate bid to scare off the young reps, three senior officials have commenced a defamation case against the leader of the movement. They have been given $50,000 by the Executive to "finish him off" and the action has been in court a number of times already.
Behind the scenes negotiations have seen the major political parties each offering a financial assistance package to the rep. Each party wants the senior officials nailed and fined for illegal use and allocation of union funds for their own personal civil cases. The rep has now served papers on all members of the Executive seeking orders for the 3 "triegos" to repay the money to the union. The Federal court matter when decided will see all those invovled fined under the new Workplace relations regulations.
One of the younger reps on the Executive was serving papers on the Senior vice President last Thursday when the SVP tried to run to avoid the inevitable service of papers. He apparently fell and was sent home from work and is now off on stress leave. Qf management who have been the force behind the old gaurd seized the opportunity and immediately suspended the rep without pay and are meeting him again next week. The rep has been advised to use the ALAEA industrial staff to represent him at the hearing but knows full well that the Industrial staff will deliberately misrepresent his cause and open the door for his sacking.
The members around the country are watching closely and preparing to walk off if any harm comes of the suspended rep.
A number of younger active lame reps from Melbourne and Sydney have initiated a takeover of the ALAEA Executive. The old gaurd that seems to achieve very little for the membership can see the writing on the wall have dug in their heels. A vacant position recently contested on the Executive saw the takeover team candidate outpoll the old gard rep by 2 1/2 to 1.
In a desperate bid to scare off the young reps, three senior officials have commenced a defamation case against the leader of the movement. They have been given $50,000 by the Executive to "finish him off" and the action has been in court a number of times already.
Behind the scenes negotiations have seen the major political parties each offering a financial assistance package to the rep. Each party wants the senior officials nailed and fined for illegal use and allocation of union funds for their own personal civil cases. The rep has now served papers on all members of the Executive seeking orders for the 3 "triegos" to repay the money to the union. The Federal court matter when decided will see all those invovled fined under the new Workplace relations regulations.
One of the younger reps on the Executive was serving papers on the Senior vice President last Thursday when the SVP tried to run to avoid the inevitable service of papers. He apparently fell and was sent home from work and is now off on stress leave. Qf management who have been the force behind the old gaurd seized the opportunity and immediately suspended the rep without pay and are meeting him again next week. The rep has been advised to use the ALAEA industrial staff to represent him at the hearing but knows full well that the Industrial staff will deliberately misrepresent his cause and open the door for his sacking.
The members around the country are watching closely and preparing to walk off if any harm comes of the suspended rep.
A number of younger active lame reps from Melbourne and Sydney have initiated a takeover of the ALAEA Executive. The old gaurd that seems to achieve very little for the membership can see the writing on the wall have dug in their heels. A vacant position recently contested on the Executive saw the takeover team candidate outpoll the old gard rep by 2 1/2 to 1.
The old guard have lost the plot, you only have to read the drivel that they put out in the so called newletter each month, luckily the paper we print it on is quite absorbent.
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It doesn't make sense, why would you run from being served a summons?
When you belong to a group of individuals that continually acknowledge that the truth can only truely be found in the legal system, and the law of the land is the final say. Why run when you are being given that opportunity.
Why else would they have turned to the legal system to sue one of their own members for asking questions, unless they believed in it?
And they think that highly of the legal system that they even agreed to fund 3 individuals to sue for defamation, freeing them of any finacial burdens associated with fighting such a case.
When you belong to a group of individuals that continually acknowledge that the truth can only truely be found in the legal system, and the law of the land is the final say. Why run when you are being given that opportunity.
Why else would they have turned to the legal system to sue one of their own members for asking questions, unless they believed in it?
And they think that highly of the legal system that they even agreed to fund 3 individuals to sue for defamation, freeing them of any finacial burdens associated with fighting such a case.
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This is very distressing to read, although I am not a Qantas Engineer, and this engineer was stood down by Qantas Management, I see it escalating into something that may change the face of Aviation in this Country.
Engineers will always be there as long as aircraft fly, they are as important to flying as pilots without one or both, no aircraft will fly.
You can take out Flight attendants, Passenger handling, Ground staff and all the support groups in a company and rules can be changed to accommodate, but pilots and engineers are needed to get the aircraft into the air, or they wouldn't be AIR craft.
So any escalated dispute can not be good for Australian Aviation, and this is shaping up to be a bitter battle.
Engineers will always be there as long as aircraft fly, they are as important to flying as pilots without one or both, no aircraft will fly.
You can take out Flight attendants, Passenger handling, Ground staff and all the support groups in a company and rules can be changed to accommodate, but pilots and engineers are needed to get the aircraft into the air, or they wouldn't be AIR craft.
So any escalated dispute can not be good for Australian Aviation, and this is shaping up to be a bitter battle.
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I work with the accused number 1 in Melbourne.
The company and union have thrown every bit of grief, mud and dirt at him to try and splinter the new support base. The man has five kids at home and is being sued for $750,000 over a comment made in a private email to less than a dozen friends.
Accused number 2 is also a man with a pregnant wife and 3 kids under 5 years old. He is now at home with an uncertain future stood down without any reason given and no possibility of turning to his union.
The fact that the two new voices of LAMEs in this country are such commited family men makes the actions taken by Dixon and his henchmen so much worse. The members are fully behind them and look forward to the day when opinion is free to voice and the airline has no influence in the democratic decision of our members to elect whoever they wish.
For the regional LAMEs wishing to contact accused number 1 his contact via the ALAEA is-
[email protected]
The company and union have thrown every bit of grief, mud and dirt at him to try and splinter the new support base. The man has five kids at home and is being sued for $750,000 over a comment made in a private email to less than a dozen friends.
Accused number 2 is also a man with a pregnant wife and 3 kids under 5 years old. He is now at home with an uncertain future stood down without any reason given and no possibility of turning to his union.
The fact that the two new voices of LAMEs in this country are such commited family men makes the actions taken by Dixon and his henchmen so much worse. The members are fully behind them and look forward to the day when opinion is free to voice and the airline has no influence in the democratic decision of our members to elect whoever they wish.
For the regional LAMEs wishing to contact accused number 1 his contact via the ALAEA is-
[email protected]
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Its only a matter of time before this crowd of hoons destroy what once was a respecteble Assosiation. They will go out and in doing so prove what we all suspect. All they want is strike action. They deserve the treatment their getting.
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Its only a matter of time before this crowd of hoons destroy what once was a respecteble Assosiation.
Under whose watch has it crumbled? = Poor management
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Mr Qantas your statement is a little confusing
If you are a member of the Executive, and judging from your spelling that is very possible, what special treatement have these people been getting?
Has there been a conspiracy against them?
Do you plot ways to stop those who seek the truth?
Shame on you
They deserve the treatment their getting.
Has there been a conspiracy against them?
Do you plot ways to stop those who seek the truth?
Shame on you
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No rat I gota start somewere.
Yes it was a fine Assosiation until 2 years ago when the Mexicans tried to take it over. Unfortunetly it didn't work and it looks like the plot is now unreveling. You just cant slander and defame your fellow members and excpect to get away with it. Everything in this world needs to be acountable and in this case the two will be judged in courts and apropriatly sentenced.
Best of luck fools.
Yes it was a fine Assosiation until 2 years ago when the Mexicans tried to take it over. Unfortunetly it didn't work and it looks like the plot is now unreveling. You just cant slander and defame your fellow members and excpect to get away with it. Everything in this world needs to be acountable and in this case the two will be judged in courts and apropriatly sentenced.
Best of luck fools.
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At the risk of offending several groups of employees well done!
QUOTE: Engineers will always be there as long as aircraft fly, they are as important to flying as pilots without one or both, no aircraft will fly.
You can take out Flight attendants, Passenger handling, Ground staff and all the support groups in a company and rules can be changed to accommodate, but pilots and engineers are needed to get the aircraft into the air, or they wouldn't be AIR craft.
UNQUOTE:
Any other disposable people you can think of???
love to see a commercial A/C fly with Pax less ground and cabin support, sure why not use a few admin girls from finance or HR!
Indeed Engineers are vital, no argument there!
QUOTE: Engineers will always be there as long as aircraft fly, they are as important to flying as pilots without one or both, no aircraft will fly.
You can take out Flight attendants, Passenger handling, Ground staff and all the support groups in a company and rules can be changed to accommodate, but pilots and engineers are needed to get the aircraft into the air, or they wouldn't be AIR craft.
UNQUOTE:
Any other disposable people you can think of???
love to see a commercial A/C fly with Pax less ground and cabin support, sure why not use a few admin girls from finance or HR!
Indeed Engineers are vital, no argument there!
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4play.
Point taken!!
It was not my intention to degrade the importance of any of these support groups, and if some have been offended I do apologise.
I was simply trying to make a point that for an aircraft to get off the ground they need to be serviceable and flown well.
Point taken!!
It was not my intention to degrade the importance of any of these support groups, and if some have been offended I do apologise.
I was simply trying to make a point that for an aircraft to get off the ground they need to be serviceable and flown well.