Virgin plane in emergency landing
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Are you a frustrated, wannabe moderator, HANOI.
The vast majority of your posts to date add nothing to the topic under discussion, but criticise/abuse other contributors.
And I happen to agree with wirgin blew and cakehole - it really is a slow news day, when the press needs to add the term "Emergency landing" to an event in which there were no injuries sustained, nor any serious damage to the aircraft.
The vast majority of your posts to date add nothing to the topic under discussion, but criticise/abuse other contributors.
And I happen to agree with wirgin blew and cakehole - it really is a slow news day, when the press needs to add the term "Emergency landing" to an event in which there were no injuries sustained, nor any serious damage to the aircraft.
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So , does there have to be injuries sustained or serious damage to an aircraft before it can be described as an emergency landing ?. ( In this case it was not an emergency ).
And I think it's a case of Pot and Kettle in regard to criticism/abuse. Your last post to 'Prospector' in the 'Mt Erebus' thread was contemptible.
And I think it's a case of Pot and Kettle in regard to criticism/abuse. Your last post to 'Prospector' in the 'Mt Erebus' thread was contemptible.
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Flight Detent, thanks for your answer. I suppose the tyre came clean off, so there were no "shreds" to trigger that wheel well device ... the wheel retracted normally with no indication to the crew.
Kaptin, sure it was a slow news day, but it was still an emergency landing: the crew declared an emergency, local standby services attended, pax were instructed to brace
and the aircraft remained disabled on the runway (16R during morning peak). The landing was accomplished safely but there must have been a possibility the crew would not maintain directional control.
Kaptin, sure it was a slow news day, but it was still an emergency landing: the crew declared an emergency, local standby services attended, pax were instructed to brace
and the aircraft remained disabled on the runway (16R during morning peak). The landing was accomplished safely but there must have been a possibility the crew would not maintain directional control.
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did anyone read todays Daily Telegraph??
simply unbelievable!
Direct quote. "Some passengers said they heard a "popping" noise as the plane took off from brisbane. "i was sitting right above the wingas the plane took off and i heard a big "pop", looked out and noticed one of the tyres was flat. I told the stewardess about it but they didnt say anything about it to the rest of the pax till we landed in syd"
Hmmmmm. i am quite prepared to say the "popping sound was the gear reaching its fully retracted position, and how on earth do you see the gear from an Overwing window? or any window for that matter??
anotehr pax wanted their 5 mins of fame!
simply unbelievable!
Direct quote. "Some passengers said they heard a "popping" noise as the plane took off from brisbane. "i was sitting right above the wingas the plane took off and i heard a big "pop", looked out and noticed one of the tyres was flat. I told the stewardess about it but they didnt say anything about it to the rest of the pax till we landed in syd"
Hmmmmm. i am quite prepared to say the "popping sound was the gear reaching its fully retracted position, and how on earth do you see the gear from an Overwing window? or any window for that matter??
anotehr pax wanted their 5 mins of fame!
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Duff, the alternate brakes stop the tyre from spinning immediately after lift off. If the alternate brakes somehow fail the spinning tyre shreds will then hopefully hit and snap the pressure tit allowing the gear to free fall to the down and locked position.
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TODAYS EFFORT.
DJ423 VH-VOH BOUND FOR PERTH WAS TAXIING ALONG TAXIWAY "C" PASSING THE TOWER WHEN THE TOWER ADVISED THE CAPTAIN THAT A TYRE ON THE R/H MAIN LANDING GEAR HAD BURST,A/C TURNED RIGHT ONTO "B10",THEN RIGHT ONTO 'B",WAS MET BY SAFETY OFFICERS AND RFFS,RFFS ADVISED CAPTAIN THAT THE OTHER TYRE ON THAT GEAR APPEARED TO BE DEFLATING.CAPTAIN DECIDED TO WAIT FOR ENGINEERING.
ENGINEERING FOUND #2 TYRE BURST.#1 TYRE WAS STILL INTACT BUT WAS REPLACED DUE TO BEING OVERSTRESSED.
#1 & #2 TYRE ASSY`S REPLACED ON TAXIWAY.NIL OTHER DAMAGE FOUND.
MEANWHILE ALL PAX WERE TRANSFERRED TO A BUS AND TAKEN BACK TO THE TERMINAL.
AIRCRAFT WAS TOWED BACK TO THE TERMINAL BY 1610 LOCAL TIME.
APPEARS VIRGIN MAY HAVE A QUALITY CONTROL ISSUE WITH TYRES,DON`T KNOW WHO DOES THEIR RETREADS.
DJ423 VH-VOH BOUND FOR PERTH WAS TAXIING ALONG TAXIWAY "C" PASSING THE TOWER WHEN THE TOWER ADVISED THE CAPTAIN THAT A TYRE ON THE R/H MAIN LANDING GEAR HAD BURST,A/C TURNED RIGHT ONTO "B10",THEN RIGHT ONTO 'B",WAS MET BY SAFETY OFFICERS AND RFFS,RFFS ADVISED CAPTAIN THAT THE OTHER TYRE ON THAT GEAR APPEARED TO BE DEFLATING.CAPTAIN DECIDED TO WAIT FOR ENGINEERING.
ENGINEERING FOUND #2 TYRE BURST.#1 TYRE WAS STILL INTACT BUT WAS REPLACED DUE TO BEING OVERSTRESSED.
#1 & #2 TYRE ASSY`S REPLACED ON TAXIWAY.NIL OTHER DAMAGE FOUND.
MEANWHILE ALL PAX WERE TRANSFERRED TO A BUS AND TAKEN BACK TO THE TERMINAL.
AIRCRAFT WAS TOWED BACK TO THE TERMINAL BY 1610 LOCAL TIME.
APPEARS VIRGIN MAY HAVE A QUALITY CONTROL ISSUE WITH TYRES,DON`T KNOW WHO DOES THEIR RETREADS.
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im no tyre expert, but could it consistant overinflation that causes bursting? i always thought a bad retread would just delaminate still leaving the tyre inflated, i have seen hundreds of aircraft at SYD with pieces of retread embedded in wing to body panels!
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Ultralights: No. For one thing, you don't over inflate them. They're checked cold each night and inflated to the AMM spec. Considering the Over Pressure relief valve operates at 375- 450 psi (AMM 32-45-00), I don't think this is a problem.
For all we know it may not be tryes, it could well be dodgey over pressure plugs, thermal fuses or valve stems, although tyres do seem the likely culprit. I'd personally (after inspection of course)put it down to chance.
For all we know it may not be tryes, it could well be dodgey over pressure plugs, thermal fuses or valve stems, although tyres do seem the likely culprit. I'd personally (after inspection of course)put it down to chance.
