Dicko tells islanders fly JQ or start your own airline
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Perhaps if there was sufficient demand to justify a two class service to HM, then Qantas would still be doing it?
It sounds similar to the squeals of angst from many regional towns throughout Australia, such as Tamworth and Dubbo, who want a jet service but don't have the pax numbers to support it, then claim Ansett (then) or QF are selling them down the river, simply because they won't provide a charitable service.
It sounds similar to the squeals of angst from many regional towns throughout Australia, such as Tamworth and Dubbo, who want a jet service but don't have the pax numbers to support it, then claim Ansett (then) or QF are selling them down the river, simply because they won't provide a charitable service.
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Anyone know why Alliance Airlines had an F100 at Hamo a few weeks back?
Didn't Alliance operate charter flights to the island last summer.
Maybe those on the island will have their own airline soon.
Didn't Alliance operate charter flights to the island last summer.
Maybe those on the island will have their own airline soon.
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
Solution: The owner(s) of Hamilton Island remove QANTAS & Jet Star's landing approval, and set up their OWN aircraft - probably only 2 - to operate a 2 class service into HTI from (say) SYD, MEL, & BNE!
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Solution: The owner(s) of Hamilton Island remove QANTAS & Jet Star's landing approval, and set up their OWN aircraft - probably only 2 - to operate a 2 class service into HTI from (say) SYD, MEL, & BNE!
Would be an interesting case study...
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I think half the problem here is that there is no option.
I would prefer to pay the extra to travel with Qantas, either economy or business, but no other choice than to travel J*.
And although I work on Hammo, I don't live there and am not a millionare.
Yes I could fly virgin out of Prossie but the service is still basically the same ie cattle class.
While Qantas was operating 2 class flights it was well utilised and the change to J* has probably increased loading by about 2% average.
Best fare out of Hammo I've had was $45 one way to BN, have not seen anything cheap of late probably because all loadings are high.
I would prefer to pay the extra to travel with Qantas, either economy or business, but no other choice than to travel J*.
And although I work on Hammo, I don't live there and am not a millionare.
Yes I could fly virgin out of Prossie but the service is still basically the same ie cattle class.
While Qantas was operating 2 class flights it was well utilised and the change to J* has probably increased loading by about 2% average.
Best fare out of Hammo I've had was $45 one way to BN, have not seen anything cheap of late probably because all loadings are high.
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Pardon my apparent snobbery, but this little black duck (pull your horns in Woomera a the little statement!!!) prefers and continues to fly QF mainline.
How one can serve one of the finest 5 star resorts in Australia - ie: Hayman and the 4-5 star properties on Hammo itself with a bargain basement carrier amazes me.
Sure it is a lesiure market, but maybe the presentation of the service could use some normalisation. Off the J class USD7000 seat from LAX and into Southwest on valium? Great adverts for North Queensland tourism!!
I just spent 3 lovely nights courtey of QF holidays in Cape Tribulation, and went North in J and South in Y. Both experiences were excellent, and most enjoyable.
Imagine starting and finishing your Australian experience stuffed in like a sardine and running to get a seat,
I just wish this Irish twit would slink back to Ryanair.
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How one can serve one of the finest 5 star resorts in Australia - ie: Hayman and the 4-5 star properties on Hammo itself with a bargain basement carrier amazes me.
Sure it is a lesiure market, but maybe the presentation of the service could use some normalisation. Off the J class USD7000 seat from LAX and into Southwest on valium? Great adverts for North Queensland tourism!!
I just spent 3 lovely nights courtey of QF holidays in Cape Tribulation, and went North in J and South in Y. Both experiences were excellent, and most enjoyable.
Imagine starting and finishing your Australian experience stuffed in like a sardine and running to get a seat,
I just wish this Irish twit would slink back to Ryanair.
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Having worked closely on Hamo with QF, I can assure you the J class seats were NOT heavily used. Those pax that were in J had usually got there by upgrading with their frequent flyer points. Anyway, in my time there, the 737s only operated Fr/Sat/Sun with the direct flight from MEL. All the others were 717 services with QFlink.
Dont think the issue is all about having J class, but rather the full service concept - we very rarely had complaints about the 717 service, and pax generally preferred it over the older 733s
Dont think the issue is all about having J class, but rather the full service concept - we very rarely had complaints about the 717 service, and pax generally preferred it over the older 733s
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Looks like Today Tonight (New Idea with moving pictures) on channel 7 is going to give a spray to anyone wanting service with their travel tonight.
They are advertising the story as "elite millionnaires who do not want to travel with ordinary Australians". Real Journalism at work
They are advertising the story as "elite millionnaires who do not want to travel with ordinary Australians". Real Journalism at work
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May-be Dicko oughta keep 'is gob shut!
If e feels like that about Hammo, why doesn't 'e do it ter all er Qantas - an why doesn't E drive a bl@@dy Holden insteada oner them expensive fancy forain imports?
If e feels like that about Hammo, why doesn't 'e do it ter all er Qantas - an why doesn't E drive a bl@@dy Holden insteada oner them expensive fancy forain imports?
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I just wish this Irish twit would slink back to Ryanair
For EWL,
Iy's a shame that one of your your invariably sensible and logical posts ends in such a disparaging way. Apart from agreeing with most of what you say, the last comment about Jet*s CEO is not only unwarranted but also I think factually incorrect on a couple of grounds. He is far from being a 'twit' - if we had just half his intellect we would be doing better things than frequenting these forums. He needn't slink back to Ryanair as he never came from there. Yes, he is Irish and reportedly has or had some ex Ryanair people working for him but he did time with Aer Lingus. It is very diffictult to confuse Aer Lingus with Ryanair. Lastly, the poor fellow is just doing his job like the rest of us. Realistically, would you have acted much differently if you were to swap places?
Have a nice evening
Iy's a shame that one of your your invariably sensible and logical posts ends in such a disparaging way. Apart from agreeing with most of what you say, the last comment about Jet*s CEO is not only unwarranted but also I think factually incorrect on a couple of grounds. He is far from being a 'twit' - if we had just half his intellect we would be doing better things than frequenting these forums. He needn't slink back to Ryanair as he never came from there. Yes, he is Irish and reportedly has or had some ex Ryanair people working for him but he did time with Aer Lingus. It is very diffictult to confuse Aer Lingus with Ryanair. Lastly, the poor fellow is just doing his job like the rest of us. Realistically, would you have acted much differently if you were to swap places?
Have a nice evening
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Oh yes Don. No wonder we drink. I accept what you say, and will admit to being too harsh without actually having met the man and discussed his theories with him.
I accept I have made an unfair call, but still do no accept the concept or the repercussions for various markets it may have. inertia is a strong foce, and I will admit it is strong in me with things we all grew up with. Change for the sake of change is something I have trouble with.
However, there is a slightly messy but effective backdoor into Hamo. A little research reveals one can go via Cairns and pick up the seat allocated Dash out of Cairns.
This wil lbe more acceptable to the high dollar International tourists going for the 5 star holiday. They are used to single class allocated flights with normal baggage transhipment, particularly in the US and Japanese markets on short haul.
My worry has never been the bleating of the locals over the "quality" of the passengers being delivered into their midst - tourist destination - LIVE WITH IT!!! My main concern has been with corporates who live in the area and fly overseas from there and are inconvenienced with non-connectivity within the one group and high yield retired people going in for the 5 star holiday.
Our mate at JQ may have been a world beater at Aer Lingus and Ryan, but the single sector and make your own arrangements sector theory is not a good marketing tool in this airspace and sidelines many sectors of the market as unwanted and irrelevant.
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I accept I have made an unfair call, but still do no accept the concept or the repercussions for various markets it may have. inertia is a strong foce, and I will admit it is strong in me with things we all grew up with. Change for the sake of change is something I have trouble with.
However, there is a slightly messy but effective backdoor into Hamo. A little research reveals one can go via Cairns and pick up the seat allocated Dash out of Cairns.
This wil lbe more acceptable to the high dollar International tourists going for the 5 star holiday. They are used to single class allocated flights with normal baggage transhipment, particularly in the US and Japanese markets on short haul.
My worry has never been the bleating of the locals over the "quality" of the passengers being delivered into their midst - tourist destination - LIVE WITH IT!!! My main concern has been with corporates who live in the area and fly overseas from there and are inconvenienced with non-connectivity within the one group and high yield retired people going in for the 5 star holiday.
Our mate at JQ may have been a world beater at Aer Lingus and Ryan, but the single sector and make your own arrangements sector theory is not a good marketing tool in this airspace and sidelines many sectors of the market as unwanted and irrelevant.
Best all
EWL
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
If you're headed off to Hammo for some R&R, then why not do it the way some of my mates (Canadian, Japanese, Mexican, Hungarian, Oz) have?
Take a bare-boat charter yacht, and sail across in luxury, from Cairns!!
They had a great time (from the video footage I've seen), sipping champagne, swimming, snorkelling, and enjoying the Whitsundays.............and the cost - when split between them - would have to be faaaar less than the extra they'd pay for a J Class seat, had they flown.
If time ISN'T of the essence, take your time!
Take a bare-boat charter yacht, and sail across in luxury, from Cairns!!
They had a great time (from the video footage I've seen), sipping champagne, swimming, snorkelling, and enjoying the Whitsundays.............and the cost - when split between them - would have to be faaaar less than the extra they'd pay for a J Class seat, had they flown.
If time ISN'T of the essence, take your time!
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A great deal of good sense there Captin.
The older I get the more I realise how important disconnecting yourself and MAKING the time is tantamount to survival.
The more you flog yourself for perceived goals, the more you need the time-outs.
Until I took the 4 nights SIN and 11 nights DPS, I didn't realise how shagged I was.
By the way - got the Conrad in SIN for SGD114.00 ++ and the Ramada bintang in Bali for USD50 including taxes service and full brekky. If any of you want me to book this for you (non commissionable but always pleased to help) I can do this through the GDS and you just produce ID on arrival.
Much easier than farting around with staff travel department. In Oz 1800 067207 and from overseas +61 364 233244.
Happy to check out other destinations for you too.
Best regards
Ron
EWL
The older I get the more I realise how important disconnecting yourself and MAKING the time is tantamount to survival.
The more you flog yourself for perceived goals, the more you need the time-outs.
Until I took the 4 nights SIN and 11 nights DPS, I didn't realise how shagged I was.
By the way - got the Conrad in SIN for SGD114.00 ++ and the Ramada bintang in Bali for USD50 including taxes service and full brekky. If any of you want me to book this for you (non commissionable but always pleased to help) I can do this through the GDS and you just produce ID on arrival.
Much easier than farting around with staff travel department. In Oz 1800 067207 and from overseas +61 364 233244.
Happy to check out other destinations for you too.
Best regards
Ron
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Awful nice offer, there EWL, noted with thanks.
If this is to be a rumour forum, it would seem that an inordinate number of ground crew have been training with VB's handler at Mackay, even considering their new schedule. What possible airport in the Mackay region could VB be planning to service.... one with a recently voided contract of exclusivity with QF perhaps?
If this is to be a rumour forum, it would seem that an inordinate number of ground crew have been training with VB's handler at Mackay, even considering their new schedule. What possible airport in the Mackay region could VB be planning to service.... one with a recently voided contract of exclusivity with QF perhaps?
