Assault-case pilot fights for job
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They should give this guy a Freedom command. Given the low fares and associated lower socioeconomic passengers he could sort out the trouble makers (knuckle sandwich style).
Good for on time departures as he would most likely chuck the defect log out the window and go for it. I like his non-PC style, there are plenty of people on this earth that could do with a good thrashing and he sounds like he delivers.
Pilots are PIC not PC.
Good for on time departures as he would most likely chuck the defect log out the window and go for it. I like his non-PC style, there are plenty of people on this earth that could do with a good thrashing and he sounds like he delivers.
Pilots are PIC not PC.
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I just love all the sheep & hobbit jokes Cornholio, let's see, you must be:
a) A bitter & twisted ex-Ansett Australia employee still blaming all & sundry across the Tasman for the demise of your former employer
b) Someone who's wife/girlfriend/boyfriend ran off with a Kiwi
or
c) Another sad little battling digger suffering from a severe case of Inferioritus Australis
Why not just grow up & stay on the thread topic and take out your anguish somewhere else? Here's an idea, set up your own www.ihatenz.com site
In the meantime, regardless of whether this Air NZ captain is an innocent victim or not, I can sort of see the airline's point of view, it would be a public relations nightmare. Just imagine the media frenzy if this guy is allowed to keep his job.
a) A bitter & twisted ex-Ansett Australia employee still blaming all & sundry across the Tasman for the demise of your former employer
b) Someone who's wife/girlfriend/boyfriend ran off with a Kiwi
or
c) Another sad little battling digger suffering from a severe case of Inferioritus Australis
Why not just grow up & stay on the thread topic and take out your anguish somewhere else? Here's an idea, set up your own www.ihatenz.com site
In the meantime, regardless of whether this Air NZ captain is an innocent victim or not, I can sort of see the airline's point of view, it would be a public relations nightmare. Just imagine the media frenzy if this guy is allowed to keep his job.
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Pilot fights for rights Perhaps
I think the matter is sub judice is it not?
The existence of prior matters is irrelevant to any current charge except for issues of sentencing following a Court conviction.
Each allegation is heard on its merits in a Court free from hyperbole and vitreol, lucky poor chap is in the courts and not before the lot parading here for the most part.
Fit and Proper Person? - " .. traditionally, appropriate or suitable for a particular office or vocation". At law has no precise meaning other than the definition provided in the Act to which reference is made. No reference in the Act? Matter of Judicial Interpretation. You could go all the way to the High Court and back on this sort of issue.
The bloke has enough problems without you lot rabbiting on about them.
The existence of prior matters is irrelevant to any current charge except for issues of sentencing following a Court conviction.
Each allegation is heard on its merits in a Court free from hyperbole and vitreol, lucky poor chap is in the courts and not before the lot parading here for the most part.
Fit and Proper Person? - " .. traditionally, appropriate or suitable for a particular office or vocation". At law has no precise meaning other than the definition provided in the Act to which reference is made. No reference in the Act? Matter of Judicial Interpretation. You could go all the way to the High Court and back on this sort of issue.
The bloke has enough problems without you lot rabbiting on about them.
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MOR and Cornhole,
We are not talking about child molestors or murderers so you can forget that entire blurb you serial tosser. We are talking about the grey area of physical assault. MOR, you have less than no idea of the facts, I don't know the facts myself but you are off and running about murder abnd child molestors and losing control and attacking people. Have a pill and lie down you excitable little child. Too much red cordial for you methinks.
I hhave no problem sharing a cockpit with a bloke with an assualt charge. Where do we draw the line? You probably think that if he got a parking ticket at the shops then he is a menace to society, have no regard for authority, flaunts the traffic act.......... take his licence off him. Divorced, probably a cheater who abused his wife............take his licence off him
Sorry girls but life has a way of getting in the way of your vision of a perfect little world. If some obnoxious yob was vulgar to my wife at a pub, he'd be getting my fist rammed into his teeth and to hell with the assault charge. What you you two ladies do...run out into the carpark in car there is trouble and someone tries to take your licence off you. "Sink to a level of violence"??
What sort of half baked little priss are you anyway?
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We are not talking about child molestors or murderers so you can forget that entire blurb you serial tosser. We are talking about the grey area of physical assault. MOR, you have less than no idea of the facts, I don't know the facts myself but you are off and running about murder abnd child molestors and losing control and attacking people. Have a pill and lie down you excitable little child. Too much red cordial for you methinks.
I hhave no problem sharing a cockpit with a bloke with an assualt charge. Where do we draw the line? You probably think that if he got a parking ticket at the shops then he is a menace to society, have no regard for authority, flaunts the traffic act.......... take his licence off him. Divorced, probably a cheater who abused his wife............take his licence off him
Sorry girls but life has a way of getting in the way of your vision of a perfect little world. If some obnoxious yob was vulgar to my wife at a pub, he'd be getting my fist rammed into his teeth and to hell with the assault charge. What you you two ladies do...run out into the carpark in car there is trouble and someone tries to take your licence off you. "Sink to a level of violence"??
What sort of half baked little priss are you anyway?
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Er Excuse me and with the greatest of respect..
With the greatest of respect, I wonder if this is what they might be driving at???
From the DAME's handbook:
Conduct Disorder (Antisocial Personality Disorder of Childhood)
The essential feature of conduct disorder is a repetitive and persistent pattern of behaviour
in which the basic rights of others or major societal norms or rules are violated. CASA will
not usually consider certification for a medical certificate to an applicant with a
substantiated history of conduct disorder.
Oppositional Defiant Disorder
The major feature of this condition is a recurrent pattern of negativistic, defiant,
disobedient or hostile behaviour towards authority figures that often develops gradually in
childhood and may continue into adolescence and even into adulthood. CASA will not
usually consider medical certification for an applicant with a substantiated history of
oppositional defiant disorder.
and..
2.6.18 Impulse Control Disorders
The essential feature of impulse control disorders is failure to resist an impulse, drive, or
temptation to perform an act that is harmful to the person or to others. CASA will not
usually grant aeromedical certification to individuals who are diagnosed as suffering from
such disorders.
From the DAME's handbook:
Conduct Disorder (Antisocial Personality Disorder of Childhood)
The essential feature of conduct disorder is a repetitive and persistent pattern of behaviour
in which the basic rights of others or major societal norms or rules are violated. CASA will
not usually consider certification for a medical certificate to an applicant with a
substantiated history of conduct disorder.
Oppositional Defiant Disorder
The major feature of this condition is a recurrent pattern of negativistic, defiant,
disobedient or hostile behaviour towards authority figures that often develops gradually in
childhood and may continue into adolescence and even into adulthood. CASA will not
usually consider medical certification for an applicant with a substantiated history of
oppositional defiant disorder.
and..
2.6.18 Impulse Control Disorders
The essential feature of impulse control disorders is failure to resist an impulse, drive, or
temptation to perform an act that is harmful to the person or to others. CASA will not
usually grant aeromedical certification to individuals who are diagnosed as suffering from
such disorders.
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You sad little moron, you are a perfect example of all that is wrong with society.
There is no grey area surrounding physical assault. It is always unacceptable. The civilised world knows this. Only someone of your obviously deficient intellect needs to resort to his fists.
Your only response to an insult is to ram your fist into someones face? You are such a pathetic little specimen that words fail me.
When you grow up, and learn to act like an adult, you might be qualified to comment. Until then, why not keep your puerile little rants to yourself.
You are right, it is about drawing a line. Pity your line is down in the sewer.
You sad little moron, you are a perfect example of all that is wrong with society.
There is no grey area surrounding physical assault. It is always unacceptable. The civilised world knows this. Only someone of your obviously deficient intellect needs to resort to his fists.
Your only response to an insult is to ram your fist into someones face? You are such a pathetic little specimen that words fail me.
When you grow up, and learn to act like an adult, you might be qualified to comment. Until then, why not keep your puerile little rants to yourself.
You are right, it is about drawing a line. Pity your line is down in the sewer.
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Coming from someone who jockeys a gin, this response doesn't surprise me. When you get thumped, in a drunken haze, down at your local every Friday night, do you see this as a grey area? You talk about MY "girlfriend" then state:
(Nice spelling) Not that there's anything wrong with your personal interests that, but some people get off on some pretty twisted stuff....
Would be amusing to watch 2 hairy-footed hobbits slugging it out in the cockpit.
I hhave no problem sharing a cockpit with a bloke with an assualt charge.
Would be amusing to watch 2 hairy-footed hobbits slugging it out in the cockpit.
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Leaving aside the option of CASA to issue or cancel a licence on the grounds of some of those character traits mentioned earlier, would it also make the issuing of an ASIC card rather more difficult?
