146 to go....in comes the 717
commander adama
yep i sure do!!!
i am just quoting what i have read and heard from qf/njs sources, i am aware of all the much publicised issues/problems with the 146 believe me, but you must agree they have served their purpose here, and especially in the west.
Topend. Do you actually work in the industry?
i am just quoting what i have read and heard from qf/njs sources, i am aware of all the much publicised issues/problems with the 146 believe me, but you must agree they have served their purpose here, and especially in the west.
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........anyone else seen THIS ! 
Job Title: B717 Captains & First Officers
Region: Australasia
Company: Sigmar Aviation Ltd
Position type: Contract
Posted: Thursday 14 October 2004
Job type(s): Flight crew, Instructors, Managerial and Executive
Description: Sigmar Aviation, on behalf of a client, require a number of B717 Captains and First Officers for an upcoming contract. Interested applicants should have the following minimum requirements:
- Current CASA, ICAO or FAA ATPL Licence (Or equivalent)
- Current Class 1 Medical
- Current LPC
- Valid Passport
- Current B717 Captain or First Officer
- 2500 hours total time for Captain
- 1000 hours command on type
- 500 hours for First Officer minimum
Job Title: B717 Captains & First Officers
Region: Australasia
Company: Sigmar Aviation Ltd
Position type: Contract
Posted: Thursday 14 October 2004
Job type(s): Flight crew, Instructors, Managerial and Executive
Description: Sigmar Aviation, on behalf of a client, require a number of B717 Captains and First Officers for an upcoming contract. Interested applicants should have the following minimum requirements:
- Current CASA, ICAO or FAA ATPL Licence (Or equivalent)
- Current Class 1 Medical
- Current LPC
- Valid Passport
- Current B717 Captain or First Officer
- 2500 hours total time for Captain
- 1000 hours command on type
- 500 hours for First Officer minimum
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Wrong, Yet Again Adama
Eastern and Sunstate. THey have zero right to come across.
You might go and have a quick chat to the Man at "Number 42", because he has issued a memo outlining the agreement. I'll even send a copy of it to you if you want
Don't worry too much about being infected by the scourge of the regional pilot, Adama, as there won't be a large take-up of the offer anyway. The Progression Agreement between Eastern, Sunstate and Dragonair, Cathay Pacific and Royal Brunei is a far better proposition.
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Think you will probably find that adama was turned down by QF, Eastern, Sunstate and just about everyone else before landing a last chance job with Impulse on 1900's with all of the other rejects. He has progressed slowly up the que simply by remaining alive in that airline and now considers himself a gift to airline flying.
The fact that he has no problem with scabbery and undercutting his colleagues is apparent from his above bio.
The fact that he has no problem with scabbery and undercutting his colleagues is apparent from his above bio.
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BAE146, I think you'll find that the way these recruitment companies operate is that they get wind of work coming up, advertise for positions and when they have filled them they then go to the employer with a list of pilots and qualifications and how much it will cost the employer hoping to win the contract. Personally I couldn't see them getting rid of local pilots and then bringing in foreign pilots to fill jobs that should be filled by Australians. I know it has been done before but the circumstances here are totally different. If you're concerned, shoot a letter off to the Federal Employment Minister.
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Whenever a contract/job like this comes up, there will always be some pie in the sky outfit that will come along and serve only to keep the real incumbents that are in the race, honest.
I would bet that the only 2 that have a hope of operating the 717s are NJS and Jetstar, the former being the favourite only because Jetstar will have more than enough on their plate over the next few years with expansion, to worry about another operation also.
Anyway, I think we will find out fairly soon.............
I would bet that the only 2 that have a hope of operating the 717s are NJS and Jetstar, the former being the favourite only because Jetstar will have more than enough on their plate over the next few years with expansion, to worry about another operation also.
Anyway, I think we will find out fairly soon.............
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Top end and Dr Smith, don't take any notice of assdama. He is only capable of stringing one liners together.
He's a very deluded man with an overinflated sense of ones worth.
assdama, your comments are like your lower bowel, stinking and loaded with danger.
He's a very deluded man with an overinflated sense of ones worth.
assdama, your comments are like your lower bowel, stinking and loaded with danger.
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I have to agree with adama for about the second time in history.
They have zero RIGHT to go across to Jetstar, they have an available path(as they should) but so does any pilot meeting the criteria, be it a slightly different path. Would have been nice if a path, just a path, nothing but a path had been made available to the guys who lost their jobs when the 1900 went.
I also believe Mainline has zero RIGHT to go to Jetstar, as we have zero RIGHT to go to mainline.
It is great that paths are available but it pisses me off when people start thinking they have a RIGHT to go to other companies.
there you go I have been lured out.
They have zero RIGHT to go across to Jetstar, they have an available path(as they should) but so does any pilot meeting the criteria, be it a slightly different path. Would have been nice if a path, just a path, nothing but a path had been made available to the guys who lost their jobs when the 1900 went.
I also believe Mainline has zero RIGHT to go to Jetstar, as we have zero RIGHT to go to mainline.
It is great that paths are available but it pisses me off when people start thinking they have a RIGHT to go to other companies.
there you go I have been lured out.
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Polemic,
There is no "right" for the QFLink guys to go anywhere. Actually, they are at a disadvantage, because it's subject to crew needs at QFLink. So if the Link is short of crews (as we are at the moment), they probably won't release us....Everything else is the same, with the exception of endorsement costs, which will be supposedly "discounted". And they will generously get to keep LSL credits, as well as immediate staff travel.
From the way I read the memo, they'll have to jump the same hurdles as anyone off the street. I'm not gonna get into the merits or otherwise of that.
Actually, back when the B1900 guys were made redundant there was a "path" opened for them into QFLink. I witnessed several that went through the process up to sim and interview. Others chose not to for whatever reasons. (Gidday Matt.F.
Hope ya like the bus).
There is no "right" for the QFLink guys to go anywhere. Actually, they are at a disadvantage, because it's subject to crew needs at QFLink. So if the Link is short of crews (as we are at the moment), they probably won't release us....Everything else is the same, with the exception of endorsement costs, which will be supposedly "discounted". And they will generously get to keep LSL credits, as well as immediate staff travel.
From the way I read the memo, they'll have to jump the same hurdles as anyone off the street. I'm not gonna get into the merits or otherwise of that.
Actually, back when the B1900 guys were made redundant there was a "path" opened for them into QFLink. I witnessed several that went through the process up to sim and interview. Others chose not to for whatever reasons. (Gidday Matt.F.
Hope ya like the bus).
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It irritates me when small minded people start sprouting rights… Jetstar is owned by Qantas, just the same as Eastern and Sunstate etc and if Qantas decide that it’s ok for their staff to move between companies then it is their right.
As far as jumping through Jetstar’s hoops lets all do them shall we, including those who were employed by impulse who managed to side step the Qantas entry procedures I am sure Commander adama with all his skills would not have a problem with that….
As far as jumping through Jetstar’s hoops lets all do them shall we, including those who were employed by impulse who managed to side step the Qantas entry procedures I am sure Commander adama with all his skills would not have a problem with that….
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Spin' I don't think I'd like to have to do the S & P again. Might find meself back as a forkie
But you're correct in saying (implying) that it is the companies, not the pilot groups who set the criteria (regardless of what we think).
I think Smithy is right in that not too many will take up the offer of a pay cut for more work, however as the career progression outside of QF offers better rewards.
Targeted applicants is the buzzword
But you're correct in saying (implying) that it is the companies, not the pilot groups who set the criteria (regardless of what we think).
I think Smithy is right in that not too many will take up the offer of a pay cut for more work, however
as the career progression outside of QF offers better rewards.Targeted applicants is the buzzword
Off the original topic however just wondering do the Implulse/Jet* pilots have to jump through the S & P plus the other tests to gain gigs with mainline under the MOU?
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Hey BAE146 in regards to the advertisments for crew in the paper, nothing unusual about that. No doubt it was Jetstar through connex or whatever they call themselves seeing what crew are available gives them an idea of costing re training etc. They will then use this when they submit the proposal to Qantas.
NJS know there cost base at I think will be trying to get it a little leaner through greater staff productivity whether they can or no will be incumbent on the NJS staff and management.
It is a competitive tendering process nothing sinister just QF trying to better the bottom line, just like every major company in Australia and the world. Qf is the 37th biggest company in Australia,not bad when you look at what is above it. It simply has to be lean and mean or else go the way of the airlines in the states at present
NJS know there cost base at I think will be trying to get it a little leaner through greater staff productivity whether they can or no will be incumbent on the NJS staff and management.
It is a competitive tendering process nothing sinister just QF trying to better the bottom line, just like every major company in Australia and the world. Qf is the 37th biggest company in Australia,not bad when you look at what is above it. It simply has to be lean and mean or else go the way of the airlines in the states at present
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Last week, managed to sit with an FO who flaired, and then flaired before I could catch it - 2.15G LDGVG is not somethng both of us will forget, along with "flair, then release".
Last week, managed to sit with an FO who flaired, and then flaired before I could catch it - 2.15G LDGVG is not somethng both of us will forget, along with "flair, then release".