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Old 10th Oct 2004, 22:11
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Dash 8 Q-300 For Air Nelson

Well done chaps. Nice bit of kit. Have fun.
And 17 of them as well. More toys for the boys (oh, and girls)

So who gets to fly the first when it arrives in July '05 ??
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Ah, you beat me to it BCF, were you sitting in the hangar with your laptop and wifi connection to pprune?
awesome and the folks must be over the moon.
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Ah, never underestimate the power of a Txt Msg....
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Good choice the Q300 is a fantastic turboprop. You will all love flying it and I am sure the owners will eventually wish that that was the direction that they had gone with Mt Cook.
Enjoy...

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From xtra.co.nz

National carrier Air New Zealand said it planned to buy 17 new Dash 8 Q300 turbo-prop aircraft for operation on domestic regional routes.

The planes, built by Canada's Bombardier, would replace its current fleet of Saab 340A aircraft, which have an average age of 17 years.

The new aircraft are bigger than the Saab and increase capacity. The delivery of the first new aircraft is expected in July 2005 with one joining the fleet every six weeks, completing the delivery process within two years, the company said.

The total investment in the new planes would be about NZ$350 million to be funded by debt.

Shares in Air New Zealand, 82 percent owned by the New Zealand Government last traded steady at NZ$1.60.



Didn\'t I rad here that Eagle is getting a couple of the newer 340\'s to boost there capacity??
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Vmo,

Some of Eagle's sectors are being operated by Air Nelson SAAB's over the summer to increase capacity to places like Kerikeri, Gisborne & Tauranga. The Beech will pick up extra frequency to other destinations such as Whangarei.

Congrats to the lads for their new toys.

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And from Bombardier's website


12:11am (UK)
Bombardier Signs Air New Zealand for 17 Q300 Turboprops

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TORONTO – (BUSINESS WIRE) – Oct. 10, 2004 – Options on Additional Q300 and Q400 Aircraft Bring Potential

Order to 40 Turboprop Airliners

Bombardier Aerospace (TSX:BBD.A) (TSX:BBD.B) announced today that

Air New Zealand, a Star Alliance partner, has signed a contract to acquire 17 Bombardier Q300 50-seat turboprop aircraft.

In addition to this firm order, the contract includes options on an additional 10 Q300 and 13 Bombardier Q400 70-seat aircraft. The 17 firm Q300 aircraft will be operated by Air New Zealand’s wholly owned regional airline, Air Nelson, which operates domestic services as Air New Zealand Link.

The firm orders are valued at approximately USD269.5 million US, which could increase to USD716.0 million US if all options are exercised. Deliveries will begin in 2005.

“The Bombardier Q300 aircraft offer an ideal combination of economy, efficiency and performance,“ said Ralph Norris, Managing Director and Chief Executive, Air New Zealand. “Our passengers will be especially delighted by the Noise and Vibration Suppression (NVS) system that provides the quietest, most comfortable cabin of any regional aircraft.”

“Air New Zealand is known for the thoroughness with which it assesses potential aircraft acquisitions so we are delighted that our Bombardier Q300 have been selected as the superior choice to meet the airline’s requirements,“ said Steven Ridolfi, President, Bombardier Regional Aircraft. “With some 700 aircraft in service around the world, the Dash 8/Q Series have earned an enviable reputation for reliability, economy and passenger appeal. We are confident they will do so in the Air New Zealand fleet.

“This order further solidifies Bombardier’s dominant position in the regional aircraft market in the Asia/Pacific region,“ Mr. Ridolfi added. “Airlines in 12 countries in the region operate more than 170 Bombardier regional aircraft, with more than 50 of our turboprops in Australia and New Zealand alone.”

Air New Zealand will be the ninth Star Alliance partner airline to operate Bombardier Q Series turboprops or CRJ regional jets, joining Adria Airways, Air Canada Jazz, Air Nippon Network Ltd., Austrian arrows, Lufthansa Regional, SAS Commuter, United Express and US Airways Express. These airlines operate or have ordered more than 600 Bombardier regional aircraft.
Interesting that neither release mentions , "The order includes a simulator to be based in ___________", although I think that with options for 10 more Q300s as well as 13 Q400s it's a fairly safe bet that Auckland will have some more sim technology arriving next year, or early-mid 2006 when the first crews start needing their 6 month checks alongside the new rating training.

When do we think Auckland airport is going to start rebuilding the domestic side of things, now that they know what wingspan and turning radius they have to allow for? Bring on the confusion! Lots of faces as the once-a-year travellers get lost finding the right flights!

Some good names in the list of other operators too, to paraphrase Han Solo, "I've got a good feeling about this".
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That is good news - great to see some investment in NZ.

BUT who is paying for this? From the surface at least, AirNZ have declining yields on the domestic front, so will Helen need to reach into her pocket again...
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the contract includes options on an additional 10 Q300 and 13 Bombardier Q400 70-seat aircraft.
Hmmmm, 13 Q400s for Mount Cook, and 10 Q300s for..........
Very Interesting.

rescue 1 Helen will be doing no digging, the company has over $NZ1 Billion in cash reserves.
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Or the whole lot for AIR NEW ZEALAND LINK!!!!
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Precisely eurocap! as I had brought up in one of the many threads about this topic (I forget which!!!) when ANZ are facing huge competition and declining profits they will seek to lower costs somewhere and I think we all know that running 3 diferent fleets and three different management structures is ludicrous. eventually they will be merged into one and hopefully taking the best aspects from all of them to make one big happy family
Q400's for the routes that Cook needed the 72 for,
Q300's for the NSN routes and,
Q200's for the Eagle routes.
it has to happen sooner or later methinks.
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BelowMDA

Exactly what alot of people have been saying for years. The companies will eventually merge.

It makes good old common sense to get rid of all the middle management and just put planes on routes that are required (higher laods bigger planes and vica versa) the next 5 years will be very interesting.

Well thats what I reckon.

splat

oops forgot to say congrads on the new toys chaps
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So where to from now for everyone at Air Nelson?
Read in the paper that training for the new type will commence within a matter of weeks? That's quick isn't it?
What about the hiring scene? Rumor from other posts was interviews and ground course towards the end of the year or possibly early next? Still happening? Don't they have a ground course shortly? From how long it took to get through the last course I'd assume that another by the end of the year was a bit much to expect?
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Ground course starting shortly, 20 Oct I recall. Further hiring (interviews) was dependant on fleet replacement anouncement, so i imagine (hope) that there will be another ground course or more interviews before the end of the year. New hires will cover training requirements for other crew, so hopefully no more of this temp contract business.

Rescue1 cloud cutter - I cant imagine ANZ using cash to pay for these. Cash is reserved for when the proverbial hits the fan.
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From the NZ Herald.
The $350 million purchase will be funded via debt.
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So, what now for those in Air Nelson that were looking at Air NZ?
Will this slow down the current two per selection course?
Will more look twice at staying in Air Nelson now there will be a few more $$ involved and new aircraft??
Just curious.
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in saturdays "christchurch press" air nelson were advertising for a techinical services manager and aircraft engineers with dash-8 experience.
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"Rumour" has it that there has been a sudden flow of expat kiwi dash 8 pilots with highish time apply for jobs which will have a detrimental effect on those 1500/500 hours folks looking for jobs. Keep at it though and no doubt something will come up
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there would still be a few of the ex ansett/origin dash-8 guys floating around wouldnt there
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An ex Eagle Bandit Capt form some years ago is/was with Bombardier as one of their chief Dash8 whizzes. Can see him involved..
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