Qantas prepares staff for Christmas strikes
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I think that's for the best r-eel-ly............... 
"let's screw the roo" what sort of blue-collar agro attitude is that. sounds like Qwantas would be better off levering you out slowly and painlessly.
"let's screw the roo" what sort of blue-collar agro attitude is that. sounds like Qwantas would be better off levering you out slowly and painlessly.
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oicur12; Re your post rebutting str's claims.
Whilst casting no aspersions upon your statements, I really would like to see some evidence, ie actual figures to back up your claims.
You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.
Whilst casting no aspersions upon your statements, I really would like to see some evidence, ie actual figures to back up your claims.
You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.
L2P,
No need to tell me that - I knew it the second you mentioned you were cabin crew.
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What a gem. This merely proves my point on just how delusional you are. The pity is, it seems you belong to that minority, a core group that give the rest of QF CC such a bad name. Please, if the grass is so much greener, why don't you head off to SIA and earn more than you do now.
...................... you know what ?...........................I cant be bothered.
str
....SIA? They actually earn more than we do....
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AIR HAG! I am impressed!
You paid Ł5 a word to have "The Perfect Troll" as your name. Now, don't go and get banned, or that'll be Ł15 wasted mate.
I have no comment one way or the other re QANTAS this time, except to say I'll HAPPILY add a new list to my LISTS of names should QANTAS send in FA scabs.
You paid Ł5 a word to have "The Perfect Troll" as your name. Now, don't go and get banned, or that'll be Ł15 wasted mate.
I have no comment one way or the other re QANTAS this time, except to say I'll HAPPILY add a new list to my LISTS of names should QANTAS send in FA scabs.
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oicur12 - so who is the most profitable airline in the world?
Interesting article on crikey.com.au - this is just a small part of the clip :
The ongoing myth of Qantas staff being expensive. Compared to ALL major competitors (Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific, British Airways, United) Qantas staff are inexpensive. Pilots, cabin crew and ground staff are cheaper then any of the above airlines. If you look at the annual report the flying rat Qantas, not its other subsidiaries, have increased management by 20%.Cabin crew had a redundancy where 10% left and had until now not been replaced. Funny the airline has not really expended since 9/11. If anything they have pulled out from Rome and soon Paris. As Geoff and his mates put all there eggs in two major baskets London and Los Angeles one can only hope nothing goes wrong there.
Interesting article on crikey.com.au - this is just a small part of the clip :
The ongoing myth of Qantas staff being expensive. Compared to ALL major competitors (Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific, British Airways, United) Qantas staff are inexpensive. Pilots, cabin crew and ground staff are cheaper then any of the above airlines. If you look at the annual report the flying rat Qantas, not its other subsidiaries, have increased management by 20%.Cabin crew had a redundancy where 10% left and had until now not been replaced. Funny the airline has not really expended since 9/11. If anything they have pulled out from Rome and soon Paris. As Geoff and his mates put all there eggs in two major baskets London and Los Angeles one can only hope nothing goes wrong there.
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I am so happy i no longer work for them. after nearly 100 sick days, i was assured of a spot on the top of the list to get the money and run!
and still, 2 yrs later, i still get calls asking if i want my Job back!
the James/geoff days have most definatly been the worst for staff.
but i still can see Geoffs side of things, even though QF is profitable, they are still competing with governemnt owned and subsidised airlines.
and still, 2 yrs later, i still get calls asking if i want my Job back!
the James/geoff days have most definatly been the worst for staff.
but i still can see Geoffs side of things, even though QF is profitable, they are still competing with governemnt owned and subsidised airlines.
QF F/A's, is this going to only be a long haul fight over Christmas or are the domestic F/A's getting involved too?
Just wondering if I have to change my Christmas holiday bookings.
Just wondering if I have to change my Christmas holiday bookings.
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oic etc - Qantas for 2003 probably was one of the most profitable airlines in the world but when viewed across the past 5 years (and probably the next couple) it has not been as good a performer as EK,SQ and CX. The impact of Ansett falling over will only go so far.
str - SQ FA (and CX similar) take home total about 4000 sing per month, thats about 3400 oz.
str - SQ FA (and CX similar) take home total about 4000 sing per month, thats about 3400 oz.
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The number of cabin crew is limited by the number of crew rest positions onboard the aircraft. So you see until they reconfigure the aircraft by offloading paying passengers to allow for more space for crew rest facilities then it won't happen.
You say what's the crew rest facilities got to do with crew numbers, well Qantas crews spend most of the flight there so it should be pretty obvious. No offence meant to the Asian staff crewing Qantas flt's they are the only crew giving any decent service.
You say what's the crew rest facilities got to do with crew numbers, well Qantas crews spend most of the flight there so it should be pretty obvious. No offence meant to the Asian staff crewing Qantas flt's they are the only crew giving any decent service.
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As part of their industrial action, I heard they are going to say they will go on strike on a certain day and actually won’t and they’ll turn up for work along with all of their “replacements”.
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Crikey.com is not a source of news worth looking at. I know a lot of 777 skippers in singapore who would be most interested to learn that they are paid more then QF. The effohs in singapore are mostly paid considerably less than Qantas. SIngcargo does not even compare. As for ramp handlers - you have got to be kidding. If baggies in Qantas get anywhere near what baggies at Ansett were paid then they leave baggies in Asia for dead.
Lets compare apples with apples.
Crikey.com is not a source of news worth looking at. I know a lot of 777 skippers in singapore who would be most interested to learn that they are paid more then QF. The effohs in singapore are mostly paid considerably less than Qantas. SIngcargo does not even compare. As for ramp handlers - you have got to be kidding. If baggies in Qantas get anywhere near what baggies at Ansett were paid then they leave baggies in Asia for dead.
Lets compare apples with apples.
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Metro, welcome.
Looking from under my rock I see alot of scared cabin crew, who are worrying how far this might go, everyone wants to voice their collective grievances, but when they have to individually ring in sick or refuse to come to work because of an industrial stand then watch them turn to water. Just watch who is not on duty on the days when the crunch comes.
And for your info Left2 Primary, is a CSM (Chief Sandwich Maker)on a Qantas 747 Stationed at door 2 left. or is it FSD ( Flt. Service Director) Who can keep up with all the name changes.............. Manager, etc.
If anybody is responsible for the poor service on Qantas flts it is these people, they don't manage to well.
Looking from under my rock I see alot of scared cabin crew, who are worrying how far this might go, everyone wants to voice their collective grievances, but when they have to individually ring in sick or refuse to come to work because of an industrial stand then watch them turn to water. Just watch who is not on duty on the days when the crunch comes.
And for your info Left2 Primary, is a CSM (Chief Sandwich Maker)on a Qantas 747 Stationed at door 2 left. or is it FSD ( Flt. Service Director) Who can keep up with all the name changes.............. Manager, etc.
If anybody is responsible for the poor service on Qantas flts it is these people, they don't manage to well.
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Well I don't know. You'd have to ask him. I'm sure it means he throws peanuts around the cabin??? Like Biscuit chucker?? But who knows. These FAs are colourful people. Anything goes. Especially on Oxford St.... (so I hear)
Wasn't there a 737 pilot named L2?
Wasn't there a 737 pilot named L2?
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Not exactly. It comes from a term for those now referred to as Native Americans. I believe it is no longer considered acceptable in everyday use. A bit like "redskin".