John Howard use of ASY1 callsign
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John Howard use of ASY1 callsign
Just found out that lil johnny airplane is using the callsing ASY1 (Ausy one). Dont mind the ASY part as that is the correct ICAO designator for a RAAF aircraft on an international flight, but number ONE???? If we use the American precedent then the suffix one to a callsign is for a) the head of state, and/or b) the commander in chief, which George doubleu is, but lil johnny isnt.
Last time I checked it is the Governer General who is Australia's Head of State and Commander in Chief not the Prime Minister, so if anyone has the right to use the callsign ASY1 it is the Governer General not lil johnny.
<rant mode on> BTW I readily admit I have no respect for this man as being ex-military and now in the aviation industry I have first hand knowledge how this person has shamelessly used the military for his own political gain and his deputy is now refusing to bite the bullet and actually take charge and do something about NAS. <rant mode off>
Thank you for your patience, it has been good to get this off my chest.
Last time I checked it is the Governer General who is Australia's Head of State and Commander in Chief not the Prime Minister, so if anyone has the right to use the callsign ASY1 it is the Governer General not lil johnny.
<rant mode on> BTW I readily admit I have no respect for this man as being ex-military and now in the aviation industry I have first hand knowledge how this person has shamelessly used the military for his own political gain and his deputy is now refusing to bite the bullet and actually take charge and do something about NAS. <rant mode off>
Thank you for your patience, it has been good to get this off my chest.
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Little Johnny has shown his colours on this matter before. Remember the stink over who was to open the olympics?
He's a republican when it suits him ie. when he wants to show that he's in charge of the country.
Yet a monarchist. Hypocrite.
He's a republican when it suits him ie. when he wants to show that he's in charge of the country.
Yet a monarchist. Hypocrite.
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...get a grip
Who says the "One" callsign is limited to CinC or HoS? (Ho's... hehe... 
) Just because the yanks do it that way?
Who says the GG is Australia's CinC? I didn't even know we HAD a designated CinC.
Folks, what you see here is the tall poppy syndrome at work. The PM rides around in the front seat of his LTD or whatever it is for precisely that reason. Or else you'd have the crowds saying, "Look at Little Johnny, sitting in the back seat like he's in a taxi, who does he think he is, the PM??? The poor driver being humiliated like that..."
Well it IS a taxi and he IS the PM. Who else should be up for "Aussie 1" status then, Dame Edna? Or some sporting hero maybe. Ray Martin....
If that's the major weight on your chest I seriously think you need to see someone.
Is this the most churlish thread ever?
) Just because the yanks do it that way?Who says the GG is Australia's CinC? I didn't even know we HAD a designated CinC.
Folks, what you see here is the tall poppy syndrome at work. The PM rides around in the front seat of his LTD or whatever it is for precisely that reason. Or else you'd have the crowds saying, "Look at Little Johnny, sitting in the back seat like he's in a taxi, who does he think he is, the PM??? The poor driver being humiliated like that..."
Well it IS a taxi and he IS the PM. Who else should be up for "Aussie 1" status then, Dame Edna? Or some sporting hero maybe. Ray Martin....
If that's the major weight on your chest I seriously think you need to see someone.
Is this the most churlish thread ever?
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>Who says the GG is Australia's CinC? I didn't even know we HAD a >designated CinC.
There is this quaint document called a CONSTITUTION. Perhaps a quick read before the facists in CBR burn it.
There is this quaint document called a CONSTITUTION. Perhaps a quick read before the facists in CBR burn it.
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..Pauline....
...Ployse exployne???
I know it's been around for 100+ years but the whole GG/CinC thing is news to me.
You see, having checked my handy copy of the constitution I found farqueue is sort of correct - the actual wording states that "command in chief is vested in the Governor General", therefore his designation is still "Governor General" ). Still.... points to Far Q for knowing his poop.
I fell asleep
long before I could find anything about who's entitled to Aussie One status or any other forms of fame, celebrity, honour or infamy. I'm pretty sure it doesn't say.
Oh by the way, I stumbled across another tidbit of information:
In the preamble of The Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act, point #6 says that "The States" shall mean the colonies of New South Wales, New Zealand, Queensland, (etc, etc)." Interesting...
And now I'm off to the pub to get ****-faced like a good pilot.
I know it's been around for 100+ years but the whole GG/CinC thing is news to me.
You see, having checked my handy copy of the constitution I found farqueue is sort of correct - the actual wording states that "command in chief is vested in the Governor General", therefore his designation is still "Governor General" ). Still.... points to Far Q for knowing his poop.
I fell asleep
long before I could find anything about who's entitled to Aussie One status or any other forms of fame, celebrity, honour or infamy. I'm pretty sure it doesn't say.Oh by the way, I stumbled across another tidbit of information:
In the preamble of The Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act, point #6 says that "The States" shall mean the colonies of New South Wales, New Zealand, Queensland, (etc, etc)." Interesting...
And now I'm off to the pub to get ****-faced like a good pilot.
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What do you mean "sort of correct"?
Ask Gough Whitlam if the GG is in charge.
If you think this thread is churlish, what do you call someone who professes to be a monarchist, but wants to be 'the man in charge' when it suits him? That's the rub. He wants his cake and to eat it. Typical politician. Rules for them, and rules for the rest of us.
Ask Gough Whitlam if the GG is in charge.
If you think this thread is churlish, what do you call someone who professes to be a monarchist, but wants to be 'the man in charge' when it suits him? That's the rub. He wants his cake and to eat it. Typical politician. Rules for them, and rules for the rest of us.
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He wants his cake and to eat it. Typical politician. Rules for them, and rules for the rest of us.
I'm sure everyone knows the GG isn't in charge. Ditching Gough wasn't his decision, just his responsibility.
As for "sort of correct", I'm just being a stickler over semantics. Disregard.
Now to the pub....
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I'm sure everyone knows the GG isn't in charge. Ditching Gough wasn't his decision, just his responsibility.
Wish I could join you, so we could continue discussing ways to plot the demise of the monarchy over a beverage. Alas, my liquor license has just expired
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Who cares what the callsign is? The public don't hear it...
Then again ya gotta love the military exercise callsigns up here at times... VB, Jim Beam.....
Then again ya gotta love the military exercise callsigns up here at times... VB, Jim Beam.....
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The callsign is assigned by Ronnie RAAF. I would suggest that Little Johhny wasn't even aware of it. And I would further suggest that if the GG has the right to it then he should be making all of the decisions and doing the hard yards instead of reviewing parades and having tea parties.
Ferris, and WS. Your suggestion that the GG is REALLY in charge is just plain stupid. The PM (whoever that may be) is the guy in charge. The position of GG is ceremonial, despite what Gough will tell you. The callsign SHOULD be with the PM.
Now grow up and find something interesting to debate. Like Jetstar.
Ferris, and WS. Your suggestion that the GG is REALLY in charge is just plain stupid. The PM (whoever that may be) is the guy in charge. The position of GG is ceremonial, despite what Gough will tell you. The callsign SHOULD be with the PM.
Now grow up and find something interesting to debate. Like Jetstar.
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Governor General: Figurehead.
Ferris: Dunderhead.
If you don't understand the strucutre of the gov't, it's your own fault for not paying attention in Year 9 Social Studies. I'm not explaining the roles and responsibilities to you.
sounds like you're already pissed.
Ferris: Dunderhead.
If you don't understand the strucutre of the gov't, it's your own fault for not paying attention in Year 9 Social Studies. I'm not explaining the roles and responsibilities to you.
sounds like you're already pissed.
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You guys make me laugh. Your apathy only contibutes to monarchist's cause.
Who signs the bills the parliament passes?
Who do you swear alliegence to when joining the Australian armed forces?
I could go on, but I'm even getting bored with it.
If it's not important to you, so be it. But it's a sure sign you are losing the argument when you start playing the man.
So the PM, elected by the people of oz, wasn't dismissed by the GG? That might come as news to a few......
That's fine, as clearly you don't understand them.
Who signs the bills the parliament passes?
Who do you swear alliegence to when joining the Australian armed forces?
I could go on, but I'm even getting bored with it.
If it's not important to you, so be it. But it's a sure sign you are losing the argument when you start playing the man.
The position of GG is ceremonial, despite what Gough will tell you
I'm not explaining the roles and responsibilities to you.
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Hi all,
As I remember this situation in the RAAF, when we flew overseas, which was quite often in the P3 Squadrons, we always used:
"ASY....." which was always the diplomatic clearance number appliciable to that flight.
Cheers
As I remember this situation in the RAAF, when we flew overseas, which was quite often in the P3 Squadrons, we always used:
"ASY....." which was always the diplomatic clearance number appliciable to that flight.
Cheers
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PM Elected???
Ferris mate.
***So the PM, elected by the people of oz***
You really do have to look more closely.
As much as many of the great unwashed (us) don't like it, WE do NOT elect the PM. We elect a bunch of sycophantic wannabes who then decide who THEY want to rule (yes, rule not govern) us.
Roll on the republic where WE actually DO elect the top job.
***So the PM, elected by the people of oz***
You really do have to look more closely.
As much as many of the great unwashed (us) don't like it, WE do NOT elect the PM. We elect a bunch of sycophantic wannabes who then decide who THEY want to rule (yes, rule not govern) us.
Roll on the republic where WE actually DO elect the top job.
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Tks flight.
The short memory brigade is raring its head again. As I understand things at the moment, 1. the oz economy is one of the strongest in the world. 2. Unemployment is very low and getting lower. 3. the budget consistently operates in surplus. 4. Interest rates are as low as they have ever been for a very long time. Who is responsible for these attrocities? yep Howard and Costello.
The last time LABOR was in power i recall the following, 1. Record high unemployment, 2. record high interests rates , 3. Record foreign debt,4. Zero confidence (private or public sector).
Yeah sure the NAS shambles is a disgrace and Anderson should be derided over it, but look at the big picture girls. You may hate Howard and everything Liberal but you are a lot better off than if the fiscal incompetents in Labor were running the country. Find ONE economist to disagree!
As far as Howard using the callsign, BIG BLOODY DEAL. What a childish load of bollocks.
The short memory brigade is raring its head again. As I understand things at the moment, 1. the oz economy is one of the strongest in the world. 2. Unemployment is very low and getting lower. 3. the budget consistently operates in surplus. 4. Interest rates are as low as they have ever been for a very long time. Who is responsible for these attrocities? yep Howard and Costello.
The last time LABOR was in power i recall the following, 1. Record high unemployment, 2. record high interests rates , 3. Record foreign debt,4. Zero confidence (private or public sector).
Yeah sure the NAS shambles is a disgrace and Anderson should be derided over it, but look at the big picture girls. You may hate Howard and everything Liberal but you are a lot better off than if the fiscal incompetents in Labor were running the country. Find ONE economist to disagree!
As far as Howard using the callsign, BIG BLOODY DEAL. What a childish load of bollocks.