LOW COST CARRIER B737 FOUND WITH STANDBY HYDRAULIC SYSTEM DISCONNECTED in BNE?
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Gday all,
I'm sorry folks but I have to buy into this one.
QFandWankingIt,
Thank christ you are at QF and I sincerely hope that you stay there. That way I will never have the great misfortune of ever having to be stuck in the confined space of an aeroplane cockpit with you!
Tosser!!!!
I'm gone!(and not to QF mainline thank f#ck!)
I'm sorry folks but I have to buy into this one.
QFandWankingIt,
Thank christ you are at QF and I sincerely hope that you stay there. That way I will never have the great misfortune of ever having to be stuck in the confined space of an aeroplane cockpit with you!
Tosser!!!!
I'm gone!(and not to QF mainline thank f#ck!)
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No responce Qfand lovin? Too busy warming the backseat watching others fly? Its people like you that give us all a bad name. Try working in the real world before giving us all your wisdom.
You are a disgrace.
You are a disgrace.
Nunc est bibendum
Shame QFandwhatever's post has been deleted because I wanted to see the profile. You guys bite far too easily at times (yes, I'm guilty of it too). I was astounded a while back to be talking to some blokes (who didn't know I was a QF driver) about PPRUNE and to hear them talk about 'faking' profiles from the various airlines and winding up opposition crews with all sorts of stupid things. It was sport and a game to them. I'm NOT qfandwhatever (not my style, if I wanted to say something I'd say it as 'Keg') so don't anyone try to label that one on me.
I've not come across the breath taking arrogance exhibited by QFandwhatever face to face in QF before. Had I done so I would have told the idiot to pull their head in. Please don't think that the 'average' QF crew are like that. Have a look around the crew room at your respective airline. By and large we are exactly the same. Mostly decent blokes and sheila's trying to make a living in aviation and every now and then we spot someone who we'd prefer not to have much to do with. Whether QFandwhatever is part of QF or not, he/she certainly doesn't speak for vast majority of those of us who are.
Now, back to the thread.
I've not come across the breath taking arrogance exhibited by QFandwhatever face to face in QF before. Had I done so I would have told the idiot to pull their head in. Please don't think that the 'average' QF crew are like that. Have a look around the crew room at your respective airline. By and large we are exactly the same. Mostly decent blokes and sheila's trying to make a living in aviation and every now and then we spot someone who we'd prefer not to have much to do with. Whether QFandwhatever is part of QF or not, he/she certainly doesn't speak for vast majority of those of us who are.
Now, back to the thread.
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Yes, Keg, how true. "As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent."
I deleted the posts which were inappropriate and unrealted to the thread topic.
Woomera
I deleted the posts which were inappropriate and unrealted to the thread topic.
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The B737NG standby Hydraulic Reservior supply line to the pump does have a quick-disconnect fitting beneath the resevior , accessable from the right hand wheel well.
Having said that it is possible to disconnect to Standby Hydraulics,don`t know if the incident is real or not but these disconnects are used during maintenance to isolate reservoirs to allow component & or filter replacement without the loss of the reservoir contents.
Having said that it is possible to disconnect to Standby Hydraulics,don`t know if the incident is real or not but these disconnects are used during maintenance to isolate reservoirs to allow component & or filter replacement without the loss of the reservoir contents.
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Normally a duplicate inspection is caried out by another engineer or suitably indorsed pilot.Sometimes blame should be shared to operations as they normally give you 3 hours to do a 5 hour job.When people are rushed you have to expect some F%^&UPs
OPs please dont correct me on my spelling as i know its S$%^
Happy days
OPs please dont correct me on my spelling as i know its S$%^
Happy days
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
Hey bush mechanics, is what you are saying, when you wrote, "they normally give you 3 hours to do a 5 hour job.",
You get what you pay for?!!
OR
"You want CHEAP - you'll get CHEAP".
You get what you pay for?!!
OR
"You want CHEAP - you'll get CHEAP".
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Kaptin m.
Where in the hell did you get that from.Why is this post tittled LOW COST CARRIER.There a/c didnt come from a diffrent low cost boeing did they.
Sorry mate Ive gone straight over your head.
What im saying is that to often the blame for stuff ups is layed on pilots or engineers.Sometimes its the people in ops who schedule the a/c in for maintanance that dont give you enough time to carrie out the work required.
Soo as I said before If you are given 3 hours to do a phase check which normally takes 5 hours you cant blame people for makeing mistakes.Rushing people along ups your chances of F@#$ing up
Hope this clears your head.
Where in the hell did you get that from.Why is this post tittled LOW COST CARRIER.There a/c didnt come from a diffrent low cost boeing did they.
Sorry mate Ive gone straight over your head.
What im saying is that to often the blame for stuff ups is layed on pilots or engineers.Sometimes its the people in ops who schedule the a/c in for maintanance that dont give you enough time to carrie out the work required.
Soo as I said before If you are given 3 hours to do a phase check which normally takes 5 hours you cant blame people for makeing mistakes.Rushing people along ups your chances of F@#$ing up
Hope this clears your head.
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Just out of curiosity, how obvious is it that the system was disconnected?
Maybe despite all this blame crap going on, someone might actually give the pilot a pat on the back for noticing the fault!!!
Maybe despite all this blame crap going on, someone might actually give the pilot a pat on the back for noticing the fault!!!
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I'd just like to point out that if the feed from "A" sys reservoir was disconnected the electric pump would have overheated rather quickly.....
and ...... depending on the task involved there wouldn't necessarily be stage completion sheets or a shift hand over sheet. A simple CRS signature in the tech log might be all that is needed. As far as I'm aware Hyd reservoir disconects are not "vital points" therefore not requiring duplicate inspections. ....err and who won the RWC ?
and ...... depending on the task involved there wouldn't necessarily be stage completion sheets or a shift hand over sheet. A simple CRS signature in the tech log might be all that is needed. As far as I'm aware Hyd reservoir disconects are not "vital points" therefore not requiring duplicate inspections.
....err and who won the RWC ?
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From my original post the engineers (all 3 of them) confirmed this occurrence.
They also are pissed off that a certain person was recently elevated to a top position at CASA and was a former safety manager with this company.
As a safeguard they rang the CASA LAME safety hotline and gave details anonymously due to this organisation thinking CASA shouldnt be involved.
Reackon it actually happened people if engineers go to this trouble.
They also are pissed off that a certain person was recently elevated to a top position at CASA and was a former safety manager with this company.
As a safeguard they rang the CASA LAME safety hotline and gave details anonymously due to this organisation thinking CASA shouldnt be involved.
Reackon it actually happened people if engineers go to this trouble.
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BeerCan, just to confirm, the incident you originally refered to (I think you originally said it was the Standby system) has now been cornfirmed that it was actually the incident I refered to (the A system - dated 11/07/01), so we are only talking about the one incident ?
And for YaghtNo1's info, you are absolutely correct - the A system pump did rapidly overheat and as a result the flight had to be cancelled - CASA can cross refer to that if they bothered - flight DJ752 11/07/01
And for YaghtNo1's info, you are absolutely correct - the A system pump did rapidly overheat and as a result the flight had to be cancelled - CASA can cross refer to that if they bothered - flight DJ752 11/07/01
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ALBERT ROSS,
I beg to differ,
I read Beer Cans original and later posts that it was the Standby Hydraulic Reservior Quick Disconnect was found to be disconnected(ie undone).
Albert i think you may be referring to a seperate incident as you refer to the System A Hydraulic Reservior Quick disconnect which is located on the fwd wall of the wheel well above the keel beam.
I beg to differ,
I read Beer Cans original and later posts that it was the Standby Hydraulic Reservior Quick Disconnect was found to be disconnected(ie undone).
Albert i think you may be referring to a seperate incident as you refer to the System A Hydraulic Reservior Quick disconnect which is located on the fwd wall of the wheel well above the keel beam.
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