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Virgin and Pacific Blue ETOPS
So Virgin has decided not to fly ETOPS. How is this going to affect their Pacific Blue operation? Will Pacific Blue operate under its own AOC?
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So Virgin has decided not to fly ETOPS. How is this going to affect their Pacific Blue operation? Will Pacific Blue operate under its own AOC?
Shouldn't affect Pacific Blue as last time I looked it was going to be a NZ company with an NZ AOC.
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I don't think there is (yet) much info as to what 'size' Pacific Blue will be. I mean, who's a/c are they? Virgin Blue on cross lease or Pacific Blue "owned"/operated. I'd guess they will always be owned by Virgin Blue and most of the record keeping/control/maintenance systems will be looked after by them, not Pacific Blue. Pretty certain where the maint. will be done though isn't it. As for parts, I'd bet Virgin Blue will control that too. Why would you want to duplicate departments if not necessary/not legally required. All depends on how the a/c are placed in Pacific Blue - a skeleton of a company 'just' complying with the laws on both sides of the dutch. ETOPS fix would have to be sorted out soon otherwise it would not look good On Virgin Blue to appear to be embroiled in any serious shortcomings....so it won't affect Pacific Blue ops.
I don't think there is (yet) much info as to what 'size' Pacific Blue will be. I mean, who's a/c are they? Virgin Blue on cross lease or Pacific Blue "owned"/operated. I'd guess they will always be owned by Virgin Blue and most of the record keeping/control/maintenance systems will be looked after by them, not Pacific Blue. Pretty certain where the maint. will be done though isn't it. As for parts, I'd bet Virgin Blue will control that too. Why would you want to duplicate departments if not necessary/not legally required. All depends on how the a/c are placed in Pacific Blue - a skeleton of a company 'just' complying with the laws on both sides of the dutch. ETOPS fix would have to be sorted out soon otherwise it would not look good On Virgin Blue to appear to be embroiled in any serious shortcomings....so it won't affect Pacific Blue ops.
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Virgin has never had an ETOPS,they were permitted to carry out ETOPS trials,at completion of the trials an audit was carried out by both VB & CASA.During the audit they found that as parts and components were returned from repair/overhaul/modification the life(total hours & cycles) was being reset to zero thereby treating the parts as new.As a result VB chose?(were not allowed?) to continue the process until all the records were rectified and actual parts fitted to A/C were physically confirmed for part #,serial #,test dates,life`s ect. Depending which rumour you heard VB were either threatened with a "show cause notice" or actually served one by CASA over this parts tracking problem.
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I guess it is possible,however due to the age of most of the fleet it is extremely unlikley,the problem would largely lie with a small portion of the leased A/C that were not new off the production line when they arrived.I heard that it could all be resolved by retracing all the paperwork and amending the records to indicate the true hours/cycles .I don`t know of any components having to be removed due to records.
I guess it is possible,however due to the age of most of the fleet it is extremely unlikley,the problem would largely lie with a small portion of the leased A/C that were not new off the production line when they arrived.I heard that it could all be resolved by retracing all the paperwork and amending the records to indicate the true hours/cycles .I don`t know of any components having to be removed due to records.
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It sounds like a big GA company.
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Hey LAME. Your'e a really funny guy!!
You obviously find it empowering to vilify your opposition mate. Have a merry xmas and may the new year bring you into the 21st centuary.
You obviously find it empowering to vilify your opposition mate. Have a merry xmas and may the new year bring you into the 21st centuary.
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Could you please explain what happened on the 26th of November regards their ETOPS approval?
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Fruitloop,
Perhaps, your above question is one that the shareholders should be asking as they are certainly entitled to the answer.
Could you please explain what happened on the 26th of November regards their ETOPS approval?
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Fruitloop,
Perhaps, your above question is one that the shareholders should be asking as they are certainly entitled to the answer.
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Playing the man again Sperm Bank. How did you determine that 'they' are 'my' opposition. And by the sound of it, I'm not your mate.
fruitloop, can you expand on your 26 November comment?
By the way, I think Metro Boy encapsulated the issue succinctly.
Merry Xmas all
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fruitloop, can you expand on your 26 November comment?
By the way, I think Metro Boy encapsulated the issue succinctly.
Merry Xmas all
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Well it seems some have it partly right, some all right and some wrong. It is a rumour network afterall.
VB management didnt pull the etops approval voluintarily. It was a case of you do it or we (CASA ) will. CASA right now have a few guys in here trying to sort out the mess, and I hear it"s a real mess.
The word from within is that no more aircraft till this huge mess is sorted out and that might take a while. Time expired parts will not be an easy issue to fix. Tracing back a parts history can be a very tume consum ing task And it's not just one part we re talking about.
GA outfit?? right on dude.
VB management didnt pull the etops approval voluintarily. It was a case of you do it or we (CASA ) will. CASA right now have a few guys in here trying to sort out the mess, and I hear it"s a real mess.
The word from within is that no more aircraft till this huge mess is sorted out and that might take a while. Time expired parts will not be an easy issue to fix. Tracing back a parts history can be a very tume consum ing task And it's not just one part we re talking about.
GA outfit?? right on dude.