QF Flight Ops Xmas Drinks
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I hear a lot of people talking of staff travel as being a perk - it's not - it is part of my remuneration package that I negociated with the company when I was initially employed. It's not a privilege - it's part of my pay. It even says that on my letter of employment (now covered in dust........)
On the subject of Christmas parties though, I find the tendency for large companies to treat the concept of spreading good will once a year with distain to be a sign of the short sightedness of management in current times.
Whilst I work for an airline I am also in business for myself - and I throw parties and give decent presents to people who deserve them - a bottle of moet buys a lot of good will long after the bottle is empty. It has been my observation that the most successful people in business know the value of showing people that you appreciate them rather than treating them like a liability. Paying to get in to a company party and then buying your own drinks STINKS.
Simple as that.
On the subject of Christmas parties though, I find the tendency for large companies to treat the concept of spreading good will once a year with distain to be a sign of the short sightedness of management in current times.
Whilst I work for an airline I am also in business for myself - and I throw parties and give decent presents to people who deserve them - a bottle of moet buys a lot of good will long after the bottle is empty. It has been my observation that the most successful people in business know the value of showing people that you appreciate them rather than treating them like a liability. Paying to get in to a company party and then buying your own drinks STINKS.
Simple as that.
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My 15 yo works for a multi-national fast food chain a couple of evenings a week - for Christmas they brought in staff from another store to work the evening shift, and then took all the kids out for dinner. They were allowed to spend up to $30 each on their meal, paid for by management. The goodwill generated extended not only to the kids but to their parents as well.
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It'd be kinda nice to see QF return some of the goodwill that their core employees have shown through the last year or two (goodwill which, if withdrawn, would rapidly cause their operational costs to spiral upwards). Alas, I don't think I'll live to see it.
Don, Mulder, who gives a stuff how much C-D-C earns? QF made several hundred million dollars profit despite wars, SARS, etc. Is forking out a little symbolic goodwill towards their employees at the end of the year too much to ask? Or could that money be better spent lining the pockets of the board members? If your employer can't afford to pay for staff chrissy drinks, that's unfortunate. But many employers can and do.
Don, Mulder, who gives a stuff how much C-D-C earns? QF made several hundred million dollars profit despite wars, SARS, etc. Is forking out a little symbolic goodwill towards their employees at the end of the year too much to ask? Or could that money be better spent lining the pockets of the board members? If your employer can't afford to pay for staff chrissy drinks, that's unfortunate. But many employers can and do.
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I would've thought they could subsidise it for their staff, especially seeing that QF have their own catering department, meaning all the food and booze at cost price, yah?
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It is interesting to here that this has been past practice, ground staff have never had these type of privledges, may be thats the point they have their feet on the ground and don't have their heads in the clouds, we learnt along time ago there's no such thing as a free ride.
If your that desperate for a drink why don't you throw a few extra cans in your crew bags when you leave the aircraft?
I see most crew usually take at least 2 cans of the aircraft on an overnight.
If you choose not to respond I will understand.
Giving is more appreciated when it comes to those who don't expect it.
HAPPY CHRISTMAS
If your that desperate for a drink why don't you throw a few extra cans in your crew bags when you leave the aircraft?
I see most crew usually take at least 2 cans of the aircraft on an overnight.
If you choose not to respond I will understand.
Giving is more appreciated when it comes to those who don't expect it.
HAPPY CHRISTMAS
Nunc est bibendum
vortsa, we pay for those drinks that we 'take' off the aircraft. The limit is two per crew member. The bottle of wine used to be good value until the changed to the small bottles!
vortsa,
Yes, Keg is absolutely correct. Crew can purchase beer or wine from what stock remains at the end of a sector. There is indeed a limit on cans/bottles per person. It is approved at Corporate level and is fully documented.
I emphasise this because your post can be read as if you are alleging theft. That is very definitely not the case. Your post smacks of the "tall poppy", "I-can't-have-it-so-why-should-they?", "divide-conquer" attitude that pervades QF. Worse, if you or your colleagues don't know these facts, it can result in a crew-member having to do a "please-explain" to his boss because some ground-staffer has decided to say something to someone.....
Mate, get your facts straight before you start casting aspersions or writing loose statements here on PPrune.
Yes, Keg is absolutely correct. Crew can purchase beer or wine from what stock remains at the end of a sector. There is indeed a limit on cans/bottles per person. It is approved at Corporate level and is fully documented.
I emphasise this because your post can be read as if you are alleging theft. That is very definitely not the case. Your post smacks of the "tall poppy", "I-can't-have-it-so-why-should-they?", "divide-conquer" attitude that pervades QF. Worse, if you or your colleagues don't know these facts, it can result in a crew-member having to do a "please-explain" to his boss because some ground-staffer has decided to say something to someone.....
Mate, get your facts straight before you start casting aspersions or writing loose statements here on PPrune.
Vorsta, youve had two replys mine would be the third, nothing on board is free those drinks are PAID for by crew each and every time, be very careful when making such comments on these types of forums, Merry Xmas , Rockarpee...
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Heard a funny (and apparently true) story recently. Richard Branson standing at the bar buying drinks for his very pretty cabin crew.
He notices a Qantas Flight Attendent nearby and says "I'll bet your CEO doesn't personally buy you drinks!"
Her very quick and cutting reply was "No, my CEO pays me enough to be able to buy my own!"
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Perhaps just a little off the thread I guess, but funny just the same.
And for the record QF Captains are permitted to buy their crew drinks at QF expense on Xmas day where appropriate.
Good to see that the twilight fringe dwellers like Cruze and vortsa are still hanging around....
Merry Xmas to all....
He notices a Qantas Flight Attendent nearby and says "I'll bet your CEO doesn't personally buy you drinks!"
Her very quick and cutting reply was "No, my CEO pays me enough to be able to buy my own!"
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Perhaps just a little off the thread I guess, but funny just the same.
And for the record QF Captains are permitted to buy their crew drinks at QF expense on Xmas day where appropriate.
Good to see that the twilight fringe dwellers like Cruze and vortsa are still hanging around....
Merry Xmas to all....
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That was a true story Cactus, but it was Freddy Laker buying drinks for a DC-10 crew at a local pub near LHR.
One of the Skytrain hosties said to her BA pursar friend
"I'll bet your boss doesn't pay for your drinks at the bar after a hard days work"
to which the Pursar replied "No, he's pays us enough to buy our own drinks!"
But it is a great story.
One of the Skytrain hosties said to her BA pursar friend
"I'll bet your boss doesn't pay for your drinks at the bar after a hard days work"
to which the Pursar replied "No, he's pays us enough to buy our own drinks!"
But it is a great story.
