Pacific Blue recruitment:
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Pacific Blue recruitment:
Has anyone heard about interviews at Pacific Blue.
Is Rishworth still involved?, and are they only taking NG rated pilot's.
I emailed Rishworth and am rated on the B733 but it appears that's not enough...........
Is Rishworth still involved?, and are they only taking NG rated pilot's.
I emailed Rishworth and am rated on the B733 but it appears that's not enough...........
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It seems no one knows the PB Scheme....
I understood that they are to be up and running by Jan/Feb 2004... Which is fairly soon, so one has to ask what is the plan...?
Maybe they will use existing crews from VB to start the ball rolling..
Any other info out there??
I understood that they are to be up and running by Jan/Feb 2004... Which is fairly soon, so one has to ask what is the plan...?
Maybe they will use existing crews from VB to start the ball rolling..
Any other info out there??
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Better get that Aussie licence then soon boys. NZCAA wont put an NG rating (ie 7/8/900)series on your NZ licence as there are no NG's on the NZ register. Doesn't matter if you have a load of experience on them. I have several freinds flying the 777, but because there isnt one in NZ, no type rating on their NZ licence. However, the Aussie CASA, in all their wisdom, bless em, will type you from the 300 to the 800 series if you do a type rating on one or the other. They consider the type rating common to both series. That will of course change if PB put their aircraft on the NZ register, but what a song and dance that will be with those goofballs at NZCAA.
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Interesting comment about the NG rating on the New Zealand licence.... Maybe you want to check that mate... You may find some kiwi licences have had NG ratings on them longer than you think...
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Mach Tuck, this is straight from the horses mouth, (or the more southerly exit). I tried to get my NG rating on to my NZ licence and this is what the NZCAA told me, with regard to the NG's not being on the kiwi register. If things have changed in the last 6 months then my apologies, or perhaps you can clarify the info you may have. I for one would certainly be interested 
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heard also from the horses mouth, that unless you have an NG rating, then you will not even get an interview, at this stage anyway. Things will have to change i find it hard to believe that they will get the numbers that they require otherwise.
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Full page advertisement in Flight International 28th October - 3rd November.
Wreaks of Richard B. getting desperate. Hold out for a bit lads and you just may find you'll get a nice new 737-7/8 rating compliments of Sir Dick. (Not a relation of mine, unfortunately)
Wreaks of Richard B. getting desperate. Hold out for a bit lads and you just may find you'll get a nice new 737-7/8 rating compliments of Sir Dick. (Not a relation of mine, unfortunately)
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yeah he could be getting desperate, but its also self promotion, just like what easyjet do.
I think there are still enough type rated people out there, unless they make it tuff for overseas conversion.
I think there are still enough type rated people out there, unless they make it tuff for overseas conversion.
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This paying for your own 737 rating business 
me off! Nothing more than a bunch of tight arse twits
driving ticket prices down at the expense of flight crew!
I hereby give the single finger salute to companies that
expect individuals to fund themselves all the way to the
r/h seat and then pay them below par If I cant get
a job without paying for a boeing/airbus rating well thats
just fine by me. A simple "Thanks but no-thanks, money
doesnt grow on trees Mr Blue/Mr Freedom" should suffice.
me off! Nothing more than a bunch of tight arse twits
driving ticket prices down at the expense of flight crew!
I hereby give the single finger salute to companies that
expect individuals to fund themselves all the way to the
r/h seat and then pay them below par
If I cant geta job without paying for a boeing/airbus rating well thats
just fine by me. A simple "Thanks but no-thanks, money
doesnt grow on trees Mr Blue/Mr Freedom" should suffice.
Noble sentiments anti-skid, but Aircrew employment being the wildest, most savage jungle there is (survival of the richest), your voice will be drowned out by thousands shouting ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! 
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Well, if the general concensus is that we will "have to learn to live with it", then let no man grizzle in 1 years time that the pay and conditions STILL haven't improved, and now we're all $30,000 down!
I mean, let's get real guys! We all moan about how "the company isn't looking after us the way they should", and yet some idiots are prepared to accept that AND pay an additional $30,000 for the priviledge!
I think we need to stand fast on this one as an industry.
In the "good old days", airlines would employ based on whether you were, as a person, worth investing $X in and whether you were a good investment long term.
QANTAS used to say that by the time someone got a 747 command, the airline had invested $1 million in them over the years in training etc. That was why the emphasis was on employing "future captains", rather than someone to fill a F/O position.
Now it seems that the interviews are nothing but a farce, and the big question is "Are you prepared to pay?" I'm sure you all agree that if the answer is no, then no job!
I'm sick of hearing people moaning about how we need to fight for our pay and conditions, and the next day, the very same people are rushing off to buy jet ratings!
The stench of hipocrasy is overwhelming here guys. What are we going to do about it? Really?
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I mean, let's get real guys! We all moan about how "the company isn't looking after us the way they should", and yet some idiots are prepared to accept that AND pay an additional $30,000 for the priviledge!
I think we need to stand fast on this one as an industry.
In the "good old days", airlines would employ based on whether you were, as a person, worth investing $X in and whether you were a good investment long term.
QANTAS used to say that by the time someone got a 747 command, the airline had invested $1 million in them over the years in training etc. That was why the emphasis was on employing "future captains", rather than someone to fill a F/O position.
Now it seems that the interviews are nothing but a farce, and the big question is "Are you prepared to pay?" I'm sure you all agree that if the answer is no, then no job!
I'm sick of hearing people moaning about how we need to fight for our pay and conditions, and the next day, the very same people are rushing off to buy jet ratings!
The stench of hipocrasy is overwhelming here guys. What are we going to do about it? Really?
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I could not agree with you more 'Anti-Skid'. When will this erosion end. When will people stop saying yes sir. Pretty soon all you guys will think its okay to pay $120 per hour to sleep with your girl because there are plenty of other blokes who would be happy just to be in your shoes.
Stand up and be counted men; for what you believe in.
Personally, I think the accumulated $70 000 I've spent is quite enough. Whats next, pay your own compulsory super......
Stand up and be counted men; for what you believe in.
Personally, I think the accumulated $70 000 I've spent is quite enough. Whats next, pay your own compulsory super......
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Rishworth are payed a lump sum for the contract, so I would say there will be a flat per annum rate that includes virtually nothing. Remember the dutch auction they had a few years back for a command? 
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It is easy to rubbish people that buy jet ratings. What you are forgetting is the nepotism that exists in the airlines like Qantas and Air New Zealand. It's basically who you know rather than an on merit process for many successful applicants. Then there are the people who are rejected for not having obtained certain schooling qualifications or nowadays even the standard double university degree.
To just have the required hours means nothing. You need to have stacks of hours, plenty of jet time, excellent school achievement, double university degree etc. This, as every person knows does not make you a better pilot than plain old Joe Average who may not have any school qualifications.
The answer for Joe Average is to buy his rating and in a very short period of time be a B737 Captain. Nobody would pay for their rating if they could all secure a job with Air NZ or Qantas. The reality is there are people who never will. Pacific Blue is a great opportunity for these people.
To just have the required hours means nothing. You need to have stacks of hours, plenty of jet time, excellent school achievement, double university degree etc. This, as every person knows does not make you a better pilot than plain old Joe Average who may not have any school qualifications.
The answer for Joe Average is to buy his rating and in a very short period of time be a B737 Captain. Nobody would pay for their rating if they could all secure a job with Air NZ or Qantas. The reality is there are people who never will. Pacific Blue is a great opportunity for these people.
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You bring up some very valid points Tape It Shut, but "Its
not what you know but who you know" has proven to be
an effective way to weed out the arseholes
GO THE ALLBLACKS and the SCOTS!!
not what you know but who you know" has proven to be
an effective way to weed out the arseholes
GO THE ALLBLACKS and the SCOTS!!