PNG cracks down on expat workers
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PNG cracks down on expat workers
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PNG cracks down on expat workers
Papua New Guinea's Employment Minister, Peter Yama, has threatened to revoke the work permit of the Australian head of the country's airline, Air Niugini.
The minister has also confirmed he has put a moratorium on the issuing or renewing of any foreigner's work permits pending a review.
Mr Yama says the salaries paid to some expatriate workers in PNG are excessive.
Asked in Parliament about the number of expatriates at Air Niugini, Mr Yama said he was investigating the work permit of Rod Nelson, the Australian who took up the CEO's job at the airline in July.
Mr Yama believes the position should be held by a Papua New Guinean.
He says he will announce his position on whether the permit should be revoked within a week.
Mr Yama has confirmed he has ordered a review of compliance with work permit rules, placing a moratorium on issuing new permits in the interim.
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PNG cracks down on expat workers
Papua New Guinea's Employment Minister, Peter Yama, has threatened to revoke the work permit of the Australian head of the country's airline, Air Niugini.
The minister has also confirmed he has put a moratorium on the issuing or renewing of any foreigner's work permits pending a review.
Mr Yama says the salaries paid to some expatriate workers in PNG are excessive.
Asked in Parliament about the number of expatriates at Air Niugini, Mr Yama said he was investigating the work permit of Rod Nelson, the Australian who took up the CEO's job at the airline in July.
Mr Yama believes the position should be held by a Papua New Guinean.
He says he will announce his position on whether the permit should be revoked within a week.
Mr Yama has confirmed he has ordered a review of compliance with work permit rules, placing a moratorium on issuing new permits in the interim.
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Remember years ago when Dieter Seefeld was running the show.....and very smoothly I might add.
Some PNG politician (and I use the term loosely) decided that the expat GM should go and be replaced with a PNG national.
The rest is history!
When will these imbeciles ever learn.
Enough said.
Some PNG politician (and I use the term loosely) decided that the expat GM should go and be replaced with a PNG national.
The rest is history!
When will these imbeciles ever learn.
Enough said.
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Ground hog day.
Get hold of the Balus trilogy and read the history of political interference with PX....or at least the printable part
They couldn't do a better job of wrecking what was once a great little airline if that was their intention.
Chuck.
Get hold of the Balus trilogy and read the history of political interference with PX....or at least the printable part
They couldn't do a better job of wrecking what was once a great little airline if that was their intention.
Chuck.
Or just go to down town Port Moresby or Lae & see what happens when a country is returned to it's rightful owners... 
PNG - Africa on the doorstep of Australia...
PNG - Africa on the doorstep of Australia...
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Ho hum..........the Aussie spirit of racism pops its head up again.....
The sooner Australian rednecks achieve keeping their porky noses out of other countries affairs.....the better...
Payback time honkey.
The sooner Australian rednecks achieve keeping their porky noses out of other countries affairs.....the better... Payback time honkey.
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TIMMEEEE .... You are spot on re "Der Kaiser". he knew a thing or three about keeping the Pollies at bay, and running an Airline. Since then, a succession of PNG's finest have come, and just as swiftly, gone again. Would this political interference somehow be instigated by a certain ex PNG Manager, nowwith the PNG Tourist Board.???? I would put money on it.
Every time I think of the way they have fercked up a great outfit, I get mad. It kind of negates the efforts of all those expats (And I am proud to include myself her, and I am sure Chimbu Chuckles is too) who contributed to an outfit that the country could be proud of. The analogy of PNG Africa on the doorstep is a good one. The last out, please turn out the lights.....IF there is any electricity. Sob sob sob sob.
Every time I think of the way they have fercked up a great outfit, I get mad. It kind of negates the efforts of all those expats (And I am proud to include myself her, and I am sure Chimbu Chuckles is too) who contributed to an outfit that the country could be proud of. The analogy of PNG Africa on the doorstep is a good one. The last out, please turn out the lights.....IF there is any electricity. Sob sob sob sob.
...er, sure...payback time?
Why give 'Aid' to PNG in the first place? Simply stop paying anything at all. There are countless homeless kids or victims of domestic abuse in Australia who could do with better assistance than they get.
Why give it to a bunch of ingrates who use the retort 'redneck' to smokescreen to cover rampant corruption. The classic example of this is Mugabwe - 'his' people are substantially worse off now than they were under Smith but he is an extremely wealthy man.
Are the likes of Somare and his predecessors any different?
Throwing money in the form of aid at PNG is akin to flushing it down the toilet - the people who really need it will continue to suffer and the crooks flourish.
Keep the $ in Australia and let those with misguided attitudes like Winstun work themselves into an indignant stew.
Certainly Winstun "The sooner Australian rednecks achieve keeping their porky noses out of other countries affairs.....the better..." but you would agree that concept wiold entail the rednecks keeping all the money too would it not.
When the $ stop, methinks those sentiments would soon dry up.
Why give 'Aid' to PNG in the first place? Simply stop paying anything at all. There are countless homeless kids or victims of domestic abuse in Australia who could do with better assistance than they get.
Why give it to a bunch of ingrates who use the retort 'redneck' to smokescreen to cover rampant corruption. The classic example of this is Mugabwe - 'his' people are substantially worse off now than they were under Smith but he is an extremely wealthy man.
Are the likes of Somare and his predecessors any different?
Throwing money in the form of aid at PNG is akin to flushing it down the toilet - the people who really need it will continue to suffer and the crooks flourish.
Keep the $ in Australia and let those with misguided attitudes like Winstun work themselves into an indignant stew.
Certainly Winstun "The sooner Australian rednecks achieve keeping their porky noses out of other countries affairs.....the better..." but you would agree that concept wiold entail the rednecks keeping all the money too would it not.
When the $ stop, methinks those sentiments would soon dry up.
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aHHHH...
Winstun is stirring the **** again....
All us racists working around the third world, trying to make things better....can you blame him for his attitude!!!
I SAY WE JUST IGNORE THE TOSSER AND HE MIGHT GO AWAY
(Though I doubt it
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Winstun is stirring the **** again....
All us racists working around the third world, trying to make things better....can you blame him for his attitude!!!
I SAY WE JUST IGNORE THE TOSSER AND HE MIGHT GO AWAY
(Though I doubt it
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Racist redneck rantings is unsavory...but putting up with fairy floss, do-gooder fantasies like the above, is frankly, nauseous... Let you in on a little secret....this "aid" is not some generous humanitarian Aussie deed.. 
Think mineral exploitation, xenephobia of the yellow peril, imperialism. Aussies really do like to believe their own bullsh*t...only have to look at how they stood by for weeks on end while hundreds of Timorese got slaughtered, then acted like heroes after the perpetrators left, and now screwing poor people out of their gas deposits. Yes, keep your $ in Australia Al E. Vator. Maybe you could even spare a few for the countless homeless kids or victims of domestic abuse in Australia who could do with better assistance. But somehow I doubt it....they don't suck up to you like the black people no more, right?
Let you in on a little secret....this "aid" is not some generous humanitarian Aussie deed.. Think mineral exploitation, xenephobia of the yellow peril, imperialism. Aussies really do like to believe their own bullsh*t...only have to look at how they stood by for weeks on end while hundreds of Timorese got slaughtered, then acted like heroes after the perpetrators left, and now screwing poor people out of their gas deposits. Yes, keep your $ in Australia Al E. Vator. Maybe you could even spare a few for the countless homeless kids or victims of domestic abuse in Australia who could do with better assistance. But somehow I doubt it....they don't suck up to you like the black people no more, right?
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ABC News Online 7:21pm (AEST)
Papua PM intervenes in row over work permits for foreigners
Papua New Guinea's Prime Minister has intervened in a damaging row over the issuing of work permits to foreigners.
Sir Michael Somare has demanded an urgent meeting with his Labour Minister, Peter Yama, who last week announced a moratorium on the issuing of visas.
Mr Yama also threatened to revoke the work permit for the Australian head of PNG's airline, Air Niugini, saying chief executive officer Rod Nelson was overpaid, and his position should be localised.
Sir Michael says Mr Yama's comments do not reflect government policy, and he has vowed to take steps to rectify the situation.
"That's his personal view, that's not the government policy, and the minister will be told in no uncertain terms today," he said.
"I've asked the minister to call on my office this afternoon, to make sure of where he got that policy guideline to make that statement in the Parliament."
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Papua PM intervenes in row over work permits for foreigners
Papua New Guinea's Prime Minister has intervened in a damaging row over the issuing of work permits to foreigners.
Sir Michael Somare has demanded an urgent meeting with his Labour Minister, Peter Yama, who last week announced a moratorium on the issuing of visas.
Mr Yama also threatened to revoke the work permit for the Australian head of PNG's airline, Air Niugini, saying chief executive officer Rod Nelson was overpaid, and his position should be localised.
Sir Michael says Mr Yama's comments do not reflect government policy, and he has vowed to take steps to rectify the situation.
"That's his personal view, that's not the government policy, and the minister will be told in no uncertain terms today," he said.
"I've asked the minister to call on my office this afternoon, to make sure of where he got that policy guideline to make that statement in the Parliament."
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There you go Winstun...even the PNG PM knows the huge economic damage that would follow the kind of anti expat, xenophobic BS that Yama was spouting...if it was enacted.
I once was sat next to the (non expat) boss of the PNG taxation department southbound on PX and we discussed some of the issues of the day in PNG. His view was that the only way to save PNG was to delocalise everything above Haus meri to broaden the tax/skill base enough to a/. Get things working again in PNG and, b/. Give the Govt the revenue for major infrastructure improvement.
You want to argue with him too?
I once worked for a chap who was an adviser to the Winti Govt and as such flew him all over the place to policy meetings. One in Goroka I remember he left the minutes from the last 3 meetings in my room, accidently I think. In that 3 inch thick tome was discussion of every problem facing PNG from Law and Order to the problems of attracting the 'right kinds' of expats (long stayers) when their wives were unable to get work permits. They also made the point that delocalising everything above Haus meri would be very good for PNG.
And guess what Winstun...within weeks of that meeting work permits for expat's wives were made even more difficult to obtain!!
In fact having put the 'right' answer on the 'record', presumably for reasons of plausable deniability later, they to a man went out and enacted policy which was opposite to ideas espoused in their policy meetings!!
The only hope for PNG politically is either delocalise the pollies (highly unlikely) or vote in all women to Govt. The male PNG pollies are about 80% xenophobic, rascist, anti expat, anti any clan bar their own, dishonest, incompetent morons.
As the (black) wife of a good mate once said to me. "The only hope for PNG is to sterilize all the men and f**k the place white".
A country that I spent nearly 14 years in, and that I loved very much (I very nearly applied for citizenship in the early 90s) is being torn apart by F**kwits and you sir don't have the first vaguest clue of what you speak.
Chuck.
I once was sat next to the (non expat) boss of the PNG taxation department southbound on PX and we discussed some of the issues of the day in PNG. His view was that the only way to save PNG was to delocalise everything above Haus meri to broaden the tax/skill base enough to a/. Get things working again in PNG and, b/. Give the Govt the revenue for major infrastructure improvement.
You want to argue with him too?
I once worked for a chap who was an adviser to the Winti Govt and as such flew him all over the place to policy meetings. One in Goroka I remember he left the minutes from the last 3 meetings in my room, accidently I think. In that 3 inch thick tome was discussion of every problem facing PNG from Law and Order to the problems of attracting the 'right kinds' of expats (long stayers) when their wives were unable to get work permits. They also made the point that delocalising everything above Haus meri would be very good for PNG.
And guess what Winstun...within weeks of that meeting work permits for expat's wives were made even more difficult to obtain!!
In fact having put the 'right' answer on the 'record', presumably for reasons of plausable deniability later, they to a man went out and enacted policy which was opposite to ideas espoused in their policy meetings!!
The only hope for PNG politically is either delocalise the pollies (highly unlikely) or vote in all women to Govt. The male PNG pollies are about 80% xenophobic, rascist, anti expat, anti any clan bar their own, dishonest, incompetent morons.
As the (black) wife of a good mate once said to me. "The only hope for PNG is to sterilize all the men and f**k the place white".
A country that I spent nearly 14 years in, and that I loved very much (I very nearly applied for citizenship in the early 90s) is being torn apart by F**kwits and you sir don't have the first vaguest clue of what you speak.
Chuck.
The problem is not new. I remember working on the first "Training & Localisation Plan" in the late 1970's, a Government requirement before further Expat Visas would be issued.
From that time on, Visa issue became a hassle to the point we were continually unable to recuit enough engineers and pilots.
It's a problem few who have not lived and worked in PNG would understand.
From that time on, Visa issue became a hassle to the point we were continually unable to recuit enough engineers and pilots.
It's a problem few who have not lived and worked in PNG would understand.
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To Al E. Vator,
You might like to know that approx 80% of Aussie aid stays in Aust, ie. Aust companies and Aust workers keep it.
We are really just helping ourselves, but making ourselves look good at the same time. That's what aid is all about!
You might like to know that approx 80% of Aussie aid stays in Aust, ie. Aust companies and Aust workers keep it.
We are really just helping ourselves, but making ourselves look good at the same time. That's what aid is all about!
....could well be the case gatfield, I don't profess to know the amounts. However, even that 20% doesn't get to those who really need it. Greed amongst the beaureacrats denies assistance to those who genuinely need it - so why bother giving anything at all?
Sadly, with boofheads running the place with limitied intellect (like those rantings eminating from 'Winstun' for example) spend too much time lining their own pockets, screwing their own people, using rhetoric like 'redneck' and too little time helping those for whom aid is intended.
Australia was never the perfect administrator of PNG and there were certainly Aussies who behaived like upstart colonial lords. However, like Zimbabwe, the populace were far better off under the previous admininstration than the present and sadly the country is destined to disappear down the gurgler.
People like Winstun will ensure that happens.
Sadly, with boofheads running the place with limitied intellect (like those rantings eminating from 'Winstun' for example) spend too much time lining their own pockets, screwing their own people, using rhetoric like 'redneck' and too little time helping those for whom aid is intended.
Australia was never the perfect administrator of PNG and there were certainly Aussies who behaived like upstart colonial lords. However, like Zimbabwe, the populace were far better off under the previous admininstration than the present and sadly the country is destined to disappear down the gurgler.
People like Winstun will ensure that happens.
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the populace were far better off under
Really is astounding to witness the arrogance of these racist pigs pontificating on who is "better off", and offering freedom from poverty on the condition of inequality. People like Al E. Vator should focus more of their energy on fixing up their own backyard. Australians are among the largest victims of assault, rape, and robbery in the world.
"The only hope for PNG is to sterilize all the men and f**k the place white".
Winstun
There's Court Jester and there's unnacceptable, you just crossed the line.
W
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