Horizon retrench 11 pilots
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Horizon retrench 11 pilots
just spoke to an old mate today who told me 11 metro pilots have been retrenched from Horizon. One Captain has been fired, 5 captains demoted to F/O and 10 F/O 's sent packing. Good luck to those involved.
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Ive also been informed by that not only have crew been laid off or demoted but in the last few weeks the following management have also gone
The Chief Executive Officer
The QA/Safety Manager
Plus
The Product Development Manager
748 Flight Attendants
Remaining are the General Manager Trevor Douglas ex Skywest
who was reported to have been employed by the CEO who has now gone.
And yet to go may be a number of engineering staff
The Chief Executive Officer
The QA/Safety Manager
Plus
The Product Development Manager
748 Flight Attendants
Remaining are the General Manager Trevor Douglas ex Skywest
who was reported to have been employed by the CEO who has now gone.
And yet to go may be a number of engineering staff
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QA Safety Manager for 748s hmmmmmmmmmm...
Product Development Manager.
When these new designer jobs are the first to go, one must wonder where they are heading. Sounds as though the Bean Counters are seeing the writing on the walls.
My ex Company here desized eliminating 1 fleet of Twotters and guess what the First Guy to go was the QA guy.
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Product Development Manager.
When these new designer jobs are the first to go, one must wonder where they are heading. Sounds as though the Bean Counters are seeing the writing on the walls.
My ex Company here desized eliminating 1 fleet of Twotters and guess what the First Guy to go was the QA guy.
REgards
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I don't think the bean counters put the writing on the wall, i think it was CASA.
Apacau, apparantly the company are having troubles with the insurance company, so until resolved, the plane stays.
Apacau, apparantly the company are having troubles with the insurance company, so until resolved, the plane stays.
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they have been operating with only 3 metros for most of the year. More times than not aircraft are running late, Cooma has gone real bad, willytown has been an expensive exercise and when you buy a "new" metro from Mexico with 21, 000 hrs logged, its all gonna end in tears. Heard red rat haven't been impressed. Standby to standby.
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Sheep Guts,
You will find that most large charter companies and small RPT companies now have a QA/Safety Manager to manage their safety systems. Under the new CASR's "ALL" companies will require a "Safety System" and a Safety Manager.
I've head Horzion have trying to sell their passenger 748 for a while, maybe thats why the FA's have gone.
You will find that most large charter companies and small RPT companies now have a QA/Safety Manager to manage their safety systems. Under the new CASR's "ALL" companies will require a "Safety System" and a Safety Manager.
I've head Horzion have trying to sell their passenger 748 for a while, maybe thats why the FA's have gone.
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FL CH,
The Company I worked for only had 5 Dash 8s, and 2 twotters, and they had one QA Guy. And he was the First to go next was the Yank CEO. Then Me and several other Twotter Drivers.
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Too right! I would be very wary about anything bought in Mexico. The only reason one sells something in these Countries is cause its broke.
The Company I worked for only had 5 Dash 8s, and 2 twotters, and they had one QA Guy. And he was the First to go next was the Yank CEO. Then Me
and several other Twotter Drivers.Wessex19
when you buy a "new" metro from Mexico with 21, 000 hrs logged, its all gonna end in tears
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Sheepy, Wessex,
Just to clarify a couple of things. I don't work for for Horizon. I don't know anyone that works for Horizon. I have no links/involvement with Horizon at all and never have.....BUT.....Both of you have made it blatently clear that neither of you have a clue when it comes to buying airframes. Leave the Mexican thing alone. Anyone that does know a bit about these aircraft (myself included) knows that they where an excellent buy, regardless of who bought them. Seriously, no further comment. You're both making yourselves look like gooses. If further comment is required do some some research on said airframes before putting fingers to keyboard.
Just trying to keep it real.
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Just to clarify a couple of things. I don't work for for Horizon. I don't know anyone that works for Horizon. I have no links/involvement with Horizon at all and never have.....BUT.....Both of you have made it blatently clear that neither of you have a clue when it comes to buying airframes. Leave the Mexican thing alone. Anyone that does know a bit about these aircraft (myself included) knows that they where an excellent buy, regardless of who bought them. Seriously, no further comment. You're both making yourselves look like gooses. If further comment is required do some some research on said airframes before putting fingers to keyboard.
Just trying to keep it real.
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Also don't forget the end of the ski season is on the 12th Oct, so the winter schedule will be gone.
...other schedule changes...
... that's what you get sub-con. for the white rat.
...other schedule changes...
... that's what you get sub-con. for the white rat.
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Unfortunately, you take on a job at one of these airlines that take qantas scraps at your own risk. having said that I do hope all these companies, Horizon, Sunshine Express, M**air and many others will survive and prosper I just can't see it happening on scraps.
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Wessex 19. You seem to know a lot about Horizon and the RAN. Its time that you stopped S**ting in your "owen" nest. Get the facts before you state on time performance at Cooma or any other port. Comments like this are damaging to a company that is already in a difficult position. If you are bitter and twisted, then I think its time to take a look at your self. 
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Spin Doc,
The only routes Mac-air operate that are ex-Qantas are the island routes from CNS. The routes the Saab's and Metro's operate on are were not operate by a QF regional. Mac-air currently carries around 100,000 pax per year in QLD.
Sunshine Express does operate on the QF 'scraps' but so far they seem to be do very well out of them. From the figures (DoRT&D) I saw the other day in the 12 since they replaced the Impulse 1900's on flights to the Wide Bay area they have increased passenger numbers. On flights to TNG passenger numbers have remained steady (maybe a slight increase) since they replaced FWA.
So it's not all doom and gloom. Both these companies have been strong in the maketing department with lots of local advertsing and support from local government.
The only routes Mac-air operate that are ex-Qantas are the island routes from CNS. The routes the Saab's and Metro's operate on are were not operate by a QF regional. Mac-air currently carries around 100,000 pax per year in QLD.
Sunshine Express does operate on the QF 'scraps' but so far they seem to be do very well out of them. From the figures (DoRT&D) I saw the other day in the 12 since they replaced the Impulse 1900's on flights to the Wide Bay area they have increased passenger numbers. On flights to TNG passenger numbers have remained steady (maybe a slight increase) since they replaced FWA.
So it's not all doom and gloom. Both these companies have been strong in the maketing department with lots of local advertsing and support from local government.
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Why did they need inflated crew numbers to begin with? Get 10 pilots to do a groundschool, some completed ratings some only just getting started - most leaving paid jobs to take a postion- fly the line for a coupla months and then turn round and say sorry Bye Bye!! Bloody Stinks
A$$holes
No wonder they not going super well - spend all that training money and then throw em out on the street only weeks later, wise money spent?? Think not! Amongst other things.......
Shaking the head - your kidding. Feel sorry for this group - Geeezzz
A$$holesNo wonder they not going super well - spend all that training money and then throw em out on the street only weeks later, wise money spent?? Think not! Amongst other things.......
Shaking the head - your kidding. Feel sorry for this group - Geeezzz
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Winchester,
That six shooter of yours is way off the mark my old mate. First rule of engagement, identify your target before you fire off a salvo. In this case, you are thinking of the wrong man!!!!!
That six shooter of yours is way off the mark my old mate. First rule of engagement, identify your target before you fire off a salvo. In this case, you are thinking of the wrong man!!!!!
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From what i hear the management at Horizon have taken a potentially great operation with excellent prospects for expansion and basically through incompetence, sent it on its way down the gurgler.
I can only hope that the employees that have been retrenched & demoted have sought legal advice. From what I understand, no redundancy packages were offered. if a position is made redundant for whatever reason, what is the legal obligation of the company?
A great shame to see a company with such potential be reduced to a sinking ship.
True Qantas are looking closely and are none too impressed. If things continue on the current path, more job losses as the big Q desides they want an operator that is capable of doing the job tasked to them, not one that has to cut services for any number of reasons.
Best of luck to the crew relieved of their position by such a cowardly means.
I can only hope that the employees that have been retrenched & demoted have sought legal advice. From what I understand, no redundancy packages were offered. if a position is made redundant for whatever reason, what is the legal obligation of the company?
A great shame to see a company with such potential be reduced to a sinking ship.
True Qantas are looking closely and are none too impressed. If things continue on the current path, more job losses as the big Q desides they want an operator that is capable of doing the job tasked to them, not one that has to cut services for any number of reasons.
Best of luck to the crew relieved of their position by such a cowardly means.