QF SELECTS A321s for "SKIMPY"!!
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So if the Flying Rat /Koru deal don't happen, then is Rat gonna try shaggin Koru with Skimpy?!
QF's, A321's v NZ's, 737-300's/A320's v wotever the "Blue Virgin, Origin(ating) from the Pacific" decides to fly in/outta/thru NZ.
QF's, A321's v NZ's, 737-300's/A320's v wotever the "Blue Virgin, Origin(ating) from the Pacific" decides to fly in/outta/thru NZ.
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Ok Blue hoo
Yak yak yak....It is "you're....", not "your obviously......." yak yak...
Now what are we to talk about? Your indepth knowledge of and experience on the Airbus perhaps?
Bik
How many different aircraft types does QF run now?? Which types are capable of CCQ??
Yak yak yak....It is "you're....", not "your obviously......." yak yak...
Now what are we to talk about? Your indepth knowledge of and experience on the Airbus perhaps?
Bik
How many different aircraft types does QF run now?? Which types are capable of CCQ??
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From the free press, that being The Singapore Straights Times, the only airline looking at flying A321's here is SIA. In fact, look a bit harder and one my find the free trade talks and open skies agenda SQ are working towards.Hint, Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet.
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E.P. - grow up. I couldn't give a rats arse about your spelling and grammatical ability. You spend more time moaning about others peoples replies than posting anything here of value.
No doubt you will reply with something of equal witty value to which I look forward to.
No doubt you will reply with something of equal witty value to which I look forward to.
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What do you expect blue loo? the QF empire is soon to crumble when SQ come and start operations under open skies.
E.P. is just representative of a bunch of halfwits that are getting nervous as the good times are coming to an end for them.
Gee, I really do look forward to VB, SQ and REX teaming up.Might shut the majority of QF ******s up that haunt these boards shooting down everybody elses thoughts.
E.P. is just representative of a bunch of halfwits that are getting nervous as the good times are coming to an end for them.
Gee, I really do look forward to VB, SQ and REX teaming up.Might shut the majority of QF ******s up that haunt these boards shooting down everybody elses thoughts.
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Rumours, not BS
There has been nothing in the Straits times about this and the persons who should know in SIA have said "huh?"
The website is www.straitstimes.com.sg. They have search.
SIA are too busy evaluating the new carrier in Thailand, watching the new competitor in Myamar and keeping the door open on another start up in India. No mention of A321s in Australia.
Link please.
The website is www.straitstimes.com.sg. They have search.
SIA are too busy evaluating the new carrier in Thailand, watching the new competitor in Myamar and keeping the door open on another start up in India. No mention of A321s in Australia.
Link please.
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Keep it up Pete, maybe if you mention the mythical VB, SQ & REX tie up in every post it might just happen. Surely you have proposed it at the Star Alliance conferences. Why won't they implement your proposal?
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My prediction:
QF buy Airbus as a fleet for their budget airline so they can utillise the ex AN pilots still looking for work, make any existing QF pilots have to apply and use VB model for self funded endorsement, recruitment from GA ranks. It also instantly creates an actual difference between current mainly Boeing ops and Airbus ops. 717's can't carry the numbers as VB and QF have shown 737-800's are the ideal size.
All "Skimpy" staff will be on a new (lower rate) single union endorsed EBA. All ground staff will be employed by "Skimpy" as a separate entity with a mix of contractors and permanent staff. Any existing QF staff who want to work for Skimpy will have to apply along with everyone else off the street and if successful will have to leave QF.
QF domestic operations will slowly wind down to eventually out of existance with only skimpy left competing against VB on all VB routes, Eastern on regionals against Rex and revamped QF full service be available on International Ops only as it used to be.
Finally, Skimpy will spread it's wings around the Pacific to compete against Pacific Blue. The result will be like competing against like or model against model. QF Int will compete against Virgin Atlantic, Emirates, etc.
In the end it is QF vs AN all over again only the models and names have changed. What do you all think?. Sound feasible.
I would bet on this one !!
QF buy Airbus as a fleet for their budget airline so they can utillise the ex AN pilots still looking for work, make any existing QF pilots have to apply and use VB model for self funded endorsement, recruitment from GA ranks. It also instantly creates an actual difference between current mainly Boeing ops and Airbus ops. 717's can't carry the numbers as VB and QF have shown 737-800's are the ideal size.
All "Skimpy" staff will be on a new (lower rate) single union endorsed EBA. All ground staff will be employed by "Skimpy" as a separate entity with a mix of contractors and permanent staff. Any existing QF staff who want to work for Skimpy will have to apply along with everyone else off the street and if successful will have to leave QF.
QF domestic operations will slowly wind down to eventually out of existance with only skimpy left competing against VB on all VB routes, Eastern on regionals against Rex and revamped QF full service be available on International Ops only as it used to be.
Finally, Skimpy will spread it's wings around the Pacific to compete against Pacific Blue. The result will be like competing against like or model against model. QF Int will compete against Virgin Atlantic, Emirates, etc.
In the end it is QF vs AN all over again only the models and names have changed. What do you all think?. Sound feasible.
I would bet on this one !!
HGW
In reference of the pilot source for Skimpy consider the following.
How many years of non-currency on 320 equipment would dictate a requirment for a new endorsement?
How many former 320 pilots looking for work? Not many I don't think or hope.
Outside of QF, Dragonair is the employer of the highest number of exAN 320 pilots. Not many would leave that company for a QF subsidary I can assure. Emirates similar. Virgin Blue has a handful who are all Captains and I don't think they would leave.
Silkair might be a good source. The Singaporians have proven to be the Raping White Knights of the industry. Not my words either!
I don't think the exAN 320 pilots is much of a card to play. Could be wrong, missing an AFL season could bring anyone home I suppose.
In reference of the pilot source for Skimpy consider the following.
How many years of non-currency on 320 equipment would dictate a requirment for a new endorsement?
How many former 320 pilots looking for work? Not many I don't think or hope.
Outside of QF, Dragonair is the employer of the highest number of exAN 320 pilots. Not many would leave that company for a QF subsidary I can assure. Emirates similar. Virgin Blue has a handful who are all Captains and I don't think they would leave.
Silkair might be a good source. The Singaporians have proven to be the Raping White Knights of the industry. Not my words either!
I don't think the exAN 320 pilots is much of a card to play. Could be wrong, missing an AFL season could bring anyone home I suppose.
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Pete Conrad,
Please mind whom you are calling names.
I'm don't think you would call me names to my face or wish my family the pain others are suffering in these uncertain times.
Just as I work for a particular company (Qantas) doesn't by itself make me an ass!
Please mind whom you are calling names.
I'm don't think you would call me names to my face or wish my family the pain others are suffering in these uncertain times.
Just as I work for a particular company (Qantas) doesn't by itself make me an ass!
Mr Conrad,
Some big generalisations there, be careful who you call a tool.
Something about a pot and a kettle.
Some big generalisations there, be careful who you call a tool.
Something about a pot and a kettle.
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This whole thread is a complete joke. HGW clearly has no idea but thinks a wind up may soothe his ego. 'Ol Pete there is just being obnoxious. And everybody else is just getting wound up.
Jeez, whatever the new QF low cost carrier looks like in the future - I can assure all of you that no-one bar the very highest in the QF executive know about it. If it happens.
And they most definately aren't going to let you circus clowns in on the act. Nor will they design it around ex ansett airbus pilots for christ sake.
Grow up the lot o' yez.
BTW, the Straights Times is honest accurate reporting? Good lord - it is censorship directly from the book of Joe Stalin!
Jeez, whatever the new QF low cost carrier looks like in the future - I can assure all of you that no-one bar the very highest in the QF executive know about it. If it happens.
And they most definately aren't going to let you circus clowns in on the act. Nor will they design it around ex ansett airbus pilots for christ sake.
Grow up the lot o' yez.
BTW, the Straights Times is honest accurate reporting? Good lord - it is censorship directly from the book of Joe Stalin!