Hi everyone! Halfway thourgh the hiring process with GANS. Because I'm new here, could someone send me a pm about he package they offer for approach controllers? Many thanks.

The salary package has been adjusted downward at the time I left GANS. So will not be in a position to help you. It is still way above average than any other job in the UAE

Sit tight
 

I would sit tight and wait for the packages increase. UAE are all **** packages at the moment considering the cost of living. Especially if you have kids in school age.
The polish guy that just resigned from DXB tower after completing his initial training due to “it just not worth it” is testament to the current state of affairs.

Hi Somewhere in time,

do you actually know the packages in UAE and other countries in Middle East ?

Are GANS and DANS/Serco so different in working conditions / management / salaries ?

thanks so much in advance for your reply.

I saw somewhere that Ras Al Khaimah were recruiting. Is it just as bad as everywhere else in that area at the moment?

Anyone on abu dhabi tower?
 

What’s about package at abu dhabi tower ?
If i come from single runway experience 250 movements per day it is possible for abu dhabi or al ain ? Thx

At the moment they are desperate and will take anyone with some decent experience. AUH/DXB used to have a big pile of CVs they could choose from but that has completely dried up to a point where they are recalling people thay have previously failed the application process

Still need 5 years experience to apply or less than 5 also can apply.
 

Still need 5 years experience to apply or less than 5 also can apply due to extreamly short staff

It does not sound like a great plan haha

I always thought ANSPs in the ME had tons of money to spare, but it seems they are getting stingy and conditions are actually worse than at most ANSPs in Europe, taking into account the (artificially) high cost of living in the ME. Money will not go to ATCOs pockets but to landlord's pockets...

yes they do have lots of money but their leaders are too afraid to stick their heads out and demand increases. Also, the local managers couldn’t give a **** because they earn in excess of 25000$ pr month anyway. Plus allowances and bonuses. Average increase over the past 10 years is 1% per year. To attract new controllers from busy main airports around the world salaries now need to be at least 20000$ pr month. Plus allowances.
Also, the whole thing about ME being tax free just isnt true anymore. Yes there is no incometax as such but everything you buy/sell/trade is severely taxed one way or the other. Travel in and out of the region has also become ridiculously expensive for people that live there.

depends on where you are working at the moment. If you have 3+ years at an fairly busy airport/airspace, familiar with dual runway operations I’d say you have a good chance.

Hello everyone.

I'm looking to possibly relocate to the ME. However I do worry my current experience would not qualify me for any testing at all, what are your thoughts?

TWR ATCO ADI/APS with crossing runways topped out at 22000 movements a year. 8-10 years experience. Is there a chance to be called for testing?

Can't be long before a 2008-esque pay rise gets thrown at Dubai I should imagine. I was approached by a jobhunter for Dubai recently and when I asked what the package was, it was almost exactly the same as it was when I left 10 years ago. Not sure why they can't work out why they're struggling to recruit when many other parts of the world are pulling away with their Ts and Cs.

DFS-AS DXB/DWC
 

DAS (DFS Aviation Sevices, former Tower Company) providing ANS personnel from 2025 on. They’re looking for TWR/APP personnel here

What was the package and what do they actually mean in the ad where they require experience from "a major international airport". Do they ever consider/test candidates from lower traffic volume TWR?

Maybe you can DM me if you dont want to post it here.

They claim "a major international airport" is at least 600 movements per day. It is quite a high bar, as there are many good controlles who have earlier succeeded for DXB coming from much less movements environment. I personally recon that movements does not always equal complexity.

600 movements per day is quite excessive, but I guess they have to set some kind of bar. I come from a quite low movement TWR but want to try and apply i wonder what my changes are. We'll see I guess.

As far as I know, they dont offer you APC if this criteria is not met.

I see it makes sense. Thanks for the information. What options are there in the ME at the moment coming from a low movement TWR in EU?

roger

About to have an interview with GANS. Anyone have any experience from interviews with them? Is it just to assess if they will offer an APC or something else? Feel free to PM me any info, thanks.

Run!!!!

most likely to see if you are a suitable candidate they can offer an Apc to.

Hi. Iam showing interest in recent recruitment by GANS. Have you got any information about working conditions

Hi could you let us know how it went through. What was the package they are offering and how about working conditions

So how did it go?

It went well. I was invited to assessment, but had to decline since receiving another offer from another employer shortly after.

Could you pop me a PM with what the offer was if you're OK with that?

You probably dodged a bullet there.

how long from the interview until they informed you that you’re shortlisted for the assesment?

Already had an interview with GANS last month, anyone?

I received all the documents and information for theoretical assessment just the day after the interview. The assessment (online) was scheduled to happen within a week. After that we were supposed to agree on a date for practical assessment (APC) within 48 hours at the training facility in Al Ain. No clue when it would actually happen if I went through with it. But the pacing seemed incredibly fast and stressed to be hones. Also, you are expected to pay for all expenses relating to the APC yourself.

Hope this helps.

thank you for the information, I’ll send you PM

So since the guys seem to be crazy about documents (required of me spent half my day filling them up with nonsensical questions) even before any interview, which is way opposite any experience I had previously where CV and the basic documents (licence etc) were more than enough even after the exercise up to singing the contract… while offering no info in return so I guess they expect me to waste a lot of my time with the high chance that I’ll be unhappy with the salary and benefits they offer… but I digress:

I just want to confirm if anybody knows.

What’s the salary and package of radar approach Dubai with gans and if they really don’t pay travel expenses for training/exercises?

thanks

can you please send me a PM? Merci

Dubai Approach is DFS/Dans not Gans.

you’re right, its Abu Dhabi which is incredibly close to Dubai that’s why I mixed them up, but my question still stands.

64.5K after validation.
education 72K/kid (max 2)
housing is included in salary
private medical insurance
1 return ticket/year for family

So it's UAE 64.5K month ... and from that figure we deduct 3.000 - 4.000 euros per month for an apartment? Is that the deal these days?

And on top of that one says goodbye to an European pension... how does DANS compensate ATCOS for the loss of their future European pension after retirement?


I miss the good old days when an ATCO made 30.000 euros per month, net of taxes of course.

so 65k regardless of previous experience? Got it,
thank you for the answer!