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ZOOKER 30th September 2011 12:27

'Ferronats'?
Sounds like something that Rentokil would be called out to deal with.

djfwells 30th September 2011 14:00

More fact than rumour, I thought ? - AENA to hand over Ten Airport Control Towers to Part-British Company

Danscowpie 30th September 2011 15:33

I consider myself well and truely put in my place and will spend the weekend sitting on barbed wire as a penance.

aldegar 1st October 2011 06:58

Danscowpie, you sounded so sure of yourself not only I believed you but I even thought you actually were from Serco ;)

Here is an interesting news report from 10 months ago (02/01/11):

http://www.aviaciondigitalglobal.com...&NotDesignId=4

It's in spanish. For those of you who don't know spanish (you can still see the pictures), it's a good example of how the privatisation is going on here. The president of Ferrovial, who regularly flies his helicopter from LECU, at that time already gave for granted he was going to be the new "boss" of that airport (probably because he already knew it even though the bid hadn't even started) and joked with the controllers there telling them to "be nice to him" and even had Ferrovial christmas presents being sent to them to the TWR. The Spanish Banana Republic style...

Startrek 19th October 2011 20:47

chevvron
 
I think you will find Mr Reid was footballer at Hibs, ATCO 3 at Glasgow, ATCO 2 WM Glasgow, Operational ATCO 2 Heathrow, GM London City, GM Gatwick, DGM Swanwick AC, GM Swanwick, Chief Operating Officer NSL and MD NSL or thereabouts.:8

On the beach 20th October 2011 07:09

Startrek,

He's not that talented. It was his brother who was the footballer at Hibs! :E

On the beach

terrain safe 20th October 2011 21:09

As an understudy to Andy Goram!

saintex2002 21st January 2012 09:27

@Daermon ATC
Remenber, you said :
" By the way, a spanish proverb says: "otros vendrán que bueno me harán" meaning that those coming after me will make my deeds seem very positive. "

Did you enjoy the new spanish movie " Carmen strikes back " ???...
As I said : " No, otros vendrán e igual harán "...
Suerte... ;)

Minesthechevy 21st January 2012 16:17

Eastern wiseguy

I met the chap in question briefly at EGLL.

You may think that the words arrogant, uncaring and self-opinionated are going to appear now, but I couldn't possibly comment.

obwan 22nd January 2012 08:50

Minesthechevy


All the qualities you would expect in a senior manager.

Minesthechevy 22nd January 2012 15:31

obwan - sadly I think you are right. I met some cracking good managers, but from a certain level upwards they all turned out to be merde-merchants. There are two in particular that I would willingly do time for if I ever met them again.

Brian 48nav 22nd January 2012 17:16

I bet you mean the 'One eyed golfer' Mick. Also how did that Welsh pr*t keep his job after allegedly fiddling the company.

Quite a few I'd quite happily run over if they stepped in the road in front of me!

Daermon ATC 22nd January 2012 18:22

You are unfortunately right, Saintex.

For the rest, he is talking about the new appointment of Carmen Librero as Secretary of Transportation in Spain. She had been the director of Air Navigation at Aena during all the conflicts with controllers and is credited to have a large share of responsibility in the ongoing hostilities.

I must confess I'm a bit surprised. I thought that after that disgrace had been safely deported (ICAO at Quebec if I remember correctly) we had seen the last of her. I certainly did not expect her to be recycled by the other political party, not her old cronies.

Trust me, when (not if) the next Überlingen happens, chances are it will be over Spain. And I'll see any wager that not a single politician or Aena manager will be ever held accountable for it.

Minesthechevy 22nd January 2012 19:44

Got it in one, Brian. The other one had more Ps and Zs in his name than vowels.


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