ATC Pay Comparison
 

Hi,

I'm compiling a list of payscales for ATC units around Britain and need some help in gaining all the information. The info I'm after for any unit is

1. Tower Scale Start Salary
2. Radar Scale Start Salary
3. Radar Scale top Salary (Basic ATCO)
4. Watch Manager Salary
5. Airport movements / Day
6. Airport passenger figures / year
7. Basic Roster Pattern (6/4 etc...)

If anyone has the time / inclination to give me a hand in my quest please reply to the thread or drop me a PM. Results can be shared after!!! The more units the better!

For what purpose do you require this information?

The usual pay talks. Believed to be falling behind market rates and want to get my facts right before I present them.

Market rates, based on recent figures from union magazine - average of 3.8% across about 55 companies.

Cheers Yahoo! That's a good start. I've got most of the NATS passenger figures / movements from their website.
Ta.
Frilsy

Hello, this seems as good a place as any to ask.

I've recently had a job offer from NERL as an experienced controller. I'm assuming the pay scale for Swanwick is the same (band 5?) as the Heathrow scale that Yahoo!® posted above, minus the outer London weighting. Is that correct? Is anyone able to post, or PM me if you prefer, the actual spine points within that scale so I can make sense of the offer I got? Also, how long does a TVC last?

Many fanks :)

Frilsy

You will off course appreciate that there's a Global Market for our services, and whilst it may be interesting to see the rates within the UK, the real market has become, and will continue to be the "rate" that the World Market offers.
Unfortunately the terms and conditions, along with salary offered by the quoted figures above are, at present, far from the best within this World Market.

Roadrunner Once; if you think Swanwick and Heathrow are band 1 units, you have a lot to learn about NATS.

I got them the wrong way round, didn't I. Oops. Corrected now, cheers.

Stansted is actually a busier airport now than Manchester in terms of pax no.s passing through the airport per year (I believe Manchester may still do a greater number of a/c movements p/a), so shouldn't Stansted controllers be seeking a pay rise from their Union to eclipse the salaries of Manchester ATCO's?!?!:}:}:}

ATC Support staff
 

How about adding the numbers of support staff at your units? Do you always have an ATSA available or are you expected to undertake that role in your 'responsiblility free' SRATCOH break? And what are ATSA pay scales?

Technically Stansted are still NOT doing their own radar again as they are simply doing ESSEX RADAR!:ok:

we'll also be knocking down their radar next year and building our own one! Mwah Mwah Mwah! :}

RS

Question.....

Why should passenger numbers have any bearing on ATCO pay?

Question............

Why are Heathrow ATCO's salaries at the top of the pile?

Classicwings,
Maybe controllers who have to validate Radar as well as Tower,should get something extra for it as well.:}

classicwings,

LL pax numbers have no bearing on ATCO salary.

Throw a dyce....
maybe TMA and AC ATCOs who do 2 or more sectors (above MUR) should be getting something extra aswell... and those who work in a band 5 TMA roomand do the likes of luton approach or thames ONLY should get paid less.
pax numbers have bugger all to do with ATCO pay.

Privatesandwiches,
I didn't say anything about pax numbers.:=
If you can explain logically why a Luton approach or Thames only controller,should get £23K p.a.more than a Tower and Radar qualified Aberdeen controller,then you win a coconut.

Yes indeed thow a dice, and I didn't think it was a requirement for Heathrow TWR ATCO's to have a radar validation as well!!