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B747ATP 10th November 2007 18:26

Congrats
 
Hi zar once again you have shown your fantastic skills at spelling and lack of education towards the serious nature of losing qualified staff. Have balls to be a good controller, support your collegues that have the skills and help those that lack them. But dont worry with so many of your kind staying behind i'll make sure that i fly low level so you don't have to give me a service that my company pays for and also that you don't strain your brain. Ps. Living so many years in the bush is shining through!

sputnik1 10th November 2007 18:34

hey zar
 
might it be that if you find people who are an asset in their workfield you are willing to invest capital to keep them so they remain an investment for your company...????? guess if other companies see that investment and you don't because your way of thinking is on a more political platform, then you must wake up and smell the coffee.....:hmm:

rawitact 10th November 2007 19:18

hedgehound
 
Do you remember this game? Came in various versions... Sometimes it had moles; rabbits; crocodiles; etc. The main idea was to hit IT whenever IT lifted ITs head.

game renameed to ZAR004.:}

On a more serious note:
There are a few that think in zar004's line. Unfortunately they make life intolerable for the masses.

sleeeper 15th November 2007 14:12

are you chaps finished?can we play now.

freesky 19th November 2007 12:01

Hammer!
 
Hi Sleeeper;

Got a hammer, hopefully the 'ZAR of russia' will lift his head....
Your turn. Just make it a good one.

I'm gone.

CuitoCuanavale 20th November 2007 15:16

To the ZAR004 fellow, just caught up with the progress of this thread, sounds like your postings thus far are a wind-up.

Irrespective, those ‘germans’, as you put it, are in all probability the glue that has held together the ATC service delivery system in Namibia. As I stated near the beginning of this thread, I had trained a small portion of them, and from all indications from the performance during their course, not only would they do extremely well in ATNS, but more than likely put many current ATNS ATC’s to shame with their skills.

Racism, sleeping with a pilot for career advancement…….really!!!!,…….buddy, clearly you, judging merely from your nescient elocutionary display and your somewhat evident weak capture of the mechanics of ATM are someone who lives and dies by the blame projection game, using that as the only answer to your in all probability, questionable skills when on duty.

worn chair 27th November 2007 18:40

So.....

How are things in Nam ATC? Heard the birdies whisper that the pohpoh is hitting the fan?

mmmmmmmm

Not good...

rawitact 28th November 2007 07:07

Move
 
Seems there were a few mishaps during the last few weeks in the Windhoek ACC...
:ugh:(lost the 4 realys in north.
Some ATC was aparently refusing to have the position, he was working on, removed to make way for the new untested equipment. This ATC is now at home on long leave):ugh:
Lets hope the final move is done correctly, and not on a "NOW or NEVER" approach.:=

freesky 30th November 2007 06:23

Reminder
 
The farewell party for 3 of ATCs that have resigned will be hald today at the Swift Club.:} Starting at 1600Z:)

ALL are invited.:D

P.s. Nearly ALL

Voel 30th November 2007 06:53

Thanks, but I have to give it a miss as I have to cover their shifts.:ouch:

Enjoy it. Heard rumours that the cops are around. Hou matigheid voor oë.::=

126,7 1st December 2007 13:25

How was the party? Any incriminating pics? :E

sleeeper 4th December 2007 17:10

The party was good. should have more of them.
not to say more ATC's must leave. but brings good memory's back.
only 5 ATC's there. what a shame:yuk:
Good to see some friends and pilots.
To freesky. the HAMMER will fall sooner or later. faster than you think:)
Have fun you all

square-head 5th December 2007 14:33

Not all the ATC's are reading this forum. So I guess that they did not did not read the unofficial invitation. But I believe there's gonna be another big party?:O

freesky 6th December 2007 14:54

The party was very good!!!:}
Enought booze and food!:D

Thouse that missed it; just to bad.:O

worn chair 11th December 2007 20:35

Yer all too busy to talk now? :rolleyes:

rawitact 13th December 2007 11:57

Staff shortage
 
Just heard that 3 specific operational ATCs had a meeting with higher authority.:}
According to them there is no staff shortage in Namibia.:D
What do you then call 1 OFF day in 2 weeks?:=

worn chair 13th December 2007 19:14

I'm getting scared! Didn't know it was so bad...

But you know how it goes? You fry somebody's brain, overwork them, underpay them, do this for long enough, and nwala...

They can stand up all by themselves and talk rubbish and actually believe it too. :ugh: Just a pity they'll never realise just how stupid they looked. Even the potplants blushed.

Namibia doesn't have staff shortage? There was staff shortage back in the day. So what is the next level after staff shortage then called?

rawitact 17th December 2007 18:57

Don't be scared. It has been like this for some time...:ugh:

Heard there was another meeting. Aparantly the potplants were still there...:\
Looks like higher authority now has the correct facts and figures. Maybee somethings will change.:ok:

... thank you for the info per PM.:D

P.s. Any info from ICAO?

square-head 19th December 2007 11:01

ATC's hear (please note they don't say) that the Minister attended a braai on short notice and that he had some nice and wise words for those ATC's present.:ok: I wish I could be there, as its quite damm cold here in the northern hemisphere.:( Hope you guys down there all have a wet and merry Christmas and Happy New Year. I'm gonna enjoy my white Christmas. I might see you (those who are left behind) in February next year.http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/icons/mpangel.gif

B747ATP 12th January 2008 11:38

Another Fatal Accident at Eros
 
just got a call last night from a friend in Windhoek saying that a C210 had crashed just east of eros airport. Apparently 1 local pilot and 5 tourists. Information coming through is that the ATC on duty offered the secondary rwy. With the Nam heat and a fully loaded aircraft off that runway i wonder why the pilot chose it!:eek:

Voel 12th January 2008 13:35

Because he was !!!! scared of the windshear on the other runway.

freesky 24th January 2008 10:48

I heard there is an interesting article in the Namibian Sun Newspaper.:E

Could somebody please obtain the article and PM it or maybe place it here?:oh:

Wondering what is going on there?:ugh:

Voel 25th January 2008 05:40

freeksy same article as by properpellerpilot on this forum. http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...=308173&page=2:ugh: Highly unethical of the journalist, quoting "aviation experts" who have no knowledge of air traffic control.:confused:

Also heard rumors that an ATC failed to report for duty last night, leaving the shift severly understaffed.:=

freesky 25th January 2008 09:25

Staff shortage
 
What is that?:yuk:

As per various other posts... When last was a full days shift in Windhoek staffed as required? How many nights in the last month were worked like the one in question... (do you need examples?):D

Voel 26th January 2008 11:42

And you are leading by example!!!! ....... :{ Enjoy Germany:ok:

worn chair 7th May 2008 18:02

Many months have now passed... I would suspect that things have improved significantly...

Right?

square-head 23rd July 2008 16:23

Just received bad news. My application was turned down, although I meet all the requirements. Heard that they have recruited 8 new candidates. It appears that they have new sailors now, but still left with the old capatin steering the ship. Heard that the ship is still floating. Anybody know for how long?

worn chair 22nd August 2008 17:46

So Voel.... (no pun intended this time)

I hear disturbing rumours. Tell me its not true!

Our colleague who likes to hide behind his incompetancies as far as air traffic control is concerned, by calling everybody around him who has a lesser tan than himself, a racist, had a serious airprox the other day?

Almost took out two 1900's? hmmmm? Is it true?

And more disturbing.... I understand that no action whatsoever is taken against him? Even after he tried to "hide" the incident and didnt report it as the law requires?

And to put the cherry on the top... I understand that his licence wasn't even valid? oops.... Did I say too much?

Fellow aviators, take note, and put pressure on the DCA... Else you might be killed when the circus comes to your town...

PS: And never ever dare to call it "windhoek information", as its supposed to be called "windhoek control"... Although not much controlling takes place at times!

Doodlebug 23rd August 2008 00:23

" Is this party at the same location where the telephone lines got burned??
(+-13 Years ago) "

Yup, that was one of our better parties :E

Last time I was on Eros I saw they've torn our old hangar down, and the spot where we lit that (in)famous fire has now been paved and has aeries parked on it... :(

You ATC's were great when I was there! Jochen, Roland, Misha, Andres 1 and 2, Jackie, Rico, Susanne, all the others whose names I've forgotten.
Sad to hear it's become so bad. Wish you guys well.

Voel 23rd August 2008 06:52

Eish, going from bad to worse!

freesky 24th August 2008 10:37

birdie
 
Heard a birdie sing that some other licence was also not valid...
Some sailor having to explain to some *andstripe lawyer.

abc.fp 25th August 2008 00:30

And so it continues.... A whole lot of bark and no bite....

And to Voel... You dont seem to deny any of those allegations made by "worn chair"? Could it be true that some of your controllers work without valid licences?

Very disturbing! Is this what industry pays fees for?

square-head 25th August 2008 15:35

Voel told me it does not help to bark and bite anymore without the support of management :{. I believe that management from the Minister down to the Director are new and pretty ignorant of what's going on.:ugh:

square-head 25th August 2008 15:57

Ou ja forgot, is it true abc.fp, that this character refused to be investigated by the safety officer (just because of racial issues).

Voel 25th August 2008 20:12

There's huge back log in incident inevestigations. :\ Hopefully some outside assistance will get rid of that:D. Chances for cover-up is therefore non-negotiable.:=

abc.fp 25th August 2008 21:42

Its just weird to me, and I see this in many businesses...

There is always one person who gets away with murder. No-one is prepared to clip their wings. They can do and say whatever they want, and get away with it.

But as someone I know always says, give them enough rope, and they'll hang themselves. Well I'm waiting in anticipation.

freesky 30th August 2008 06:42

Waste
 
How much more good tallent will be wasted?


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