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sambatc 20th September 2012 08:43

from NATS' careers page....

We are sorry for the delay some applicants have been experiencing. This has been due to the high volume of applications we have received.

If you have submitted an application and are waiting to hear from us, you can expect an email within the next two weeks advising you of the next steps.






that was 20 days ago. Suffice to say I have not heard anything within "two weeks", and they've now removed it from their page. It's still on their blog, but.... :ugh:

Eddy94 20th September 2012 08:55

" Hi all, I received an email today from NATS following my Stage 1 Assessement last week, and, as they say on Dragons Den... I'm out! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/sowee.gif

I answered 46/50 on the diagramming and only 30/40 on the cubes, so maybe it wasn't enough, or I got a fair few wrong...who knows?!

For those asking about timings (If I remember correctly):

Test 1 = 18 mins (30 Questions) - Those that fail this test are sent home.
Test 2 = 25 mins (50 Questions)
Test 3 = 20 mins (40 Questions)

Good Luck to the rest of you! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/smile.gif "



Is the test 1 you outlined a combination of ATC questions (from booklet emailed) and numeracy? i presumed they were seperate tests..? Thanks to anyone who replies :)

Frenchmax 20th September 2012 09:01

I am wondering what they call exactly paper and pencil tests ? Because if is not computer test how they do to give us the result of the ATC test so quickly?

"Paper and pencil test" is just relative to the sheet of paper and pen they give us if we want to down on it some mental arithmetic ?

To those who are still "learning the material document" I found an interesting video from NATS (on their website) which explain how ATC works, I think that can help..

t2522 20th September 2012 09:10

were the spatial reasoning and diagramming questions similar to the one's we received in the stage 1 confirmation email? Were they easier or more complex?

Scott C 20th September 2012 11:32

My first exam had about 3 or 4 maths questions of the S = D/T type.

All 3 exams are done on paper. After completing the first exam, it is taken away and marked. The examiner then comes back and calls out the names, this may be for the people who have passed or failed.

My first exam included questions about:
  • Separations
  • Closing Speeds with Distances (S = D/T)
  • Aviation knowledge
  • Airspace Knowledge
  • ATC Knowledge

My advice is to read up on separations, practice Maths problems using (S = D/T), ILS', Airspaces (and adjacent control zones), MATZ's, ATZ's, LTCC, LACC.

I hope this helps and for anyone from NATS, sorry if i've said too much! :oh:

keano666 20th September 2012 11:39

have my stage 1 on wednesday at 11:00 novotel, although i shall be rather gutted if i do not pass, i will be more pi** about the fact that i had spent so much just to attend,

Great post, many useful pointers look forward to seeing you guys!

roundpole 20th September 2012 11:54

I'm out as well. gutted like bell, specialy at my age but starting preparations today for next September

roundpole 20th September 2012 11:56

obviously like hell ;) not bell

therealist 20th September 2012 13:12

The diagramming and spatial reasoning are a LOT LOT harder than practise examples.....

Read whole booklet and practise rearranging sdt maths and you will be fine, in my opinion its pretty impossible to fail that original test (althought half our group did god knows how....)

Also dont think you can do much practise on spatial reasoning/diagramming, you can either do it or you cant, my only piece of advice is manage your time and try to attempt as many as possible (this is where I came up short)....

CDNATPL 20th September 2012 13:14

Does anyone know if there will be more Stage 1 testing dates posted beyond what is currently listed?

2slipsandagully 20th September 2012 14:02

Thought it best I sign up here after reading through this thread the last couple of weeks!!

Have my Stage 1 on Wednesday and have been reading through the material and practicing my maths.

One thing I noticed and was wondering if this was the same for others is that the material they sent is very out of date. I mean it talks of the Airbus A380 rolling out in 2007! I assume the distances and acronyms we have to learn are still the same but Scott C above talks about the likes of a MATZ, which I had to google as there is nothing in the material about this?!?

I have to say my brain is frazzled from all the information and visualizing cubes in my head!

Good luck to all those still waiting :ok:

ollien25 20th September 2012 14:46

Hey guys, pretty happy with the NATS recruitment process so far, had quite quick responses. Filled the online form out on Tuesday, invited to online assessment on Wednesday, now invited to stage one. I'm going down on 4th Oct, hope to see some of you there and best of luck to everyone.

thegolfpimp 20th September 2012 15:55

Hi,

Reading through the latter part of this thread I have come across a few people who still hadn't been invited to do the online test - have they still not been invited?

I applied on the 9th July and have heard pretty much nothing since the "We are currently considering your application" email.

I've emailed NATS HR but was just told they're still considering my application and they'll contact me shortly, that was weeks ago. I also noticed their facebook page saying they'd let us know in 2 weeks etc..

sambatc 20th September 2012 16:03

hi, golf pimp, yes there are still at least a few of us in exactly the same situation as yourself. Frustrating, isn't it?

mts1 20th September 2012 16:27

thegolfpimp: welcome to the "dropout" club...

CDNATPL 20th September 2012 17:08

I don't understand why it is taking them so long to invite you to testing.

I applied, got an email the next day to do the online test and the day after that got invited to stage one.

This was just last week. I would inquire with HR further if I were you.

Rada 20th September 2012 17:32

Hi all...

I have stage 1 upcoming. A question I have is whether the calculations are mental or you can have a calculator?

I've read through their site however can't seem to see whether or not you are allowed to use a calculator.

Anyone know?

conc1845 20th September 2012 17:58

Pleasant 300 mile drive home after my Stage 1.

Just less than half of us got through the first paper (at a rough estimate).

Not over confident to be honest; 'mindf*ck' springs to mind. Stage 2 would be a bonus at this point.

Got another attempt in reserve should I need it but I doubt I'll re-apply. I'll have stumbled at the same point twice - the diagramming & cubes. To me this proves that you either can, or can't do these (accurately and fast enough).

Good luck to anyone who was at the 1045 today (20th September).

Roll on the waiting game...

Rada 20th September 2012 18:10

Also just to confirm guys...

The Stage 1 Tests are in the following order...
  • 'Test Material Doc'
  • NATS Practice Leaflet (Cubes etc)
My previous post I asked about a calculator, because I went on the SHL website to practice and it was near impossible to complete without one. I was wondering if either NATS is as hard and need a calculator or if NATS is easier and you do not use a calculator?


Hope osmeone can help.

thegolfpimp 20th September 2012 18:21

It is very frustrating. Having been through the application process before and getting to Stage 3 I am quite bewildered as to why it is taking so long to get an invite to the online test.

I have contacted HR so many times I don't want them to get the feeling I am harassing them!

I did wonder if my application had been "lost" as I applied on the 9th July (on the Facebook page it said applications opened on the 13th) but when I emailed them suggesting this I was told that my application is being considered.

Oh well. We'll wait and see I guess. Atleast there is a few (or more) of us in this predicament.

Anything else we have in common? Could be a reason for it.


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