Which throws up some doubts on the selection process, doesn't it?

Stage 1 - failure
 

Just heard today I failed Stage 1.

Really gutted, as I felt reasonably good when I came out of the tests. Especially as I sat Cranwell tests for RAF Controller and passed them. I know different criteria but aptitude is aptitude is it not?!

Oh well, back to running pubs for another year! Not helped as I run pubs in Bournemouth including the one closest to the college!!

Good luck to all those in any stages!

To all those others that failed, here's to another years waiting!

GavReal

Sorry IVOR, no mistake :mad: Let's talk about the one currently on aerodrome :rolleyes:

pretty sure that rumour is true, regardless of simfly's utterances to the contrary :E

also surprised at that situation lizplt... i wouldnt envy anyone doing spatial awareness tests AND the computer tests at stage 2... :ugh:

good luck :ok:

That was my thought too. A new level of creul!

But at least it would prove that I could handle high levels of stress ;)

advice and guidence on atc wannabes
 

ive just sat the first ability tests with nats last week, still waiting for my results. looking for opinions and advise for passing all stages and if i fail what will help me next time? replys much appreciated. thank you.

You may find using CAPITAL letters in the appropriate places might help.

Good luck.:ok:

Hi,

Just a small question.
My 1st stage tests are coming up soon (next Friday in Belfast)

In average, how many questions on cubes are there, and for how long?
Could someone answer me on the same questions for the diagramms tests and whatever tests there are?

Thanks for helping.

Chris

Now now, heretostay, or should that be HereToStay? :E:ok:

He/she also missed an apostrophe, misspelled "replies" and "advice" and used a comma where a semi-colon would have been more appropriate. Standards, dear boy, standards. :}

Ha ha ha at Zooker.

I see the point there. Numbers I can see, direction blah blah blah, but those cubes messed with my head!

Anyway, finally got a reply.

Looks like they want an unsociable wierdo because I passed the personality test too.

Whhooo hoo


:-)

Oggy, you might find it worthwhile to have a look at the main NATS Recruitment Process thread in this forum.

Could someone please reply to my earlier questions?
Thanks you all btw for the help I found on this thread.

Chris

Your question have been answered many times in this thread... 40 questions for both checking sections, 40 for the cubes and diagramming, 20 for the motivation paper.

I had 30 questions in the motivation paper. Each test, 20 mins long.

Diagramming and general questions
 

See the main NATS Interview Process thread for most details on the tests.
[Think the main thread should be made into a sticky.]

Basically, the diagramming is checking your ability to not only follow an instruction, but rather a series of instructions, some of which may counter previous instructions you have given [Thus testing you can keep a picture of the entire thread of instructions].

Think of it this way.

Your merrily watching an aircraft going due south. Another is on a reciprocal heading, coming straight towards it, at the same level.

Your first thought is to climb [for examples sake] one aircraft. Mentally, this option becomes position 1 in your plan. However, looking at traffic further down the line, you realise you cannot climb either, so you cancel your previous instruction, and choose something else.
Fine, but then a third aircraft appears that completely throws your plan out the window [it wasnt a good plan to start with:)]. You have to remember what you did do, why, and what you now need to do taking in the new information, which may cancel or alter your previous instructions.

Ok - maybe not the best example, but hopefully it helps explain why the diagramming is there, and what type of thing may be being looked for.

Good Luck!

THank yuo guys.
Yea I knew this question had been asked but, as you know, this thread is really long, kinda hard to get through it all.

Thanks a lot guys!!!!!!

Take care then.

Good luck to everybody!

Where can I download the practice questions ?
 

Where can I download the practice questions ? By the way.

The difference is Zooker is that it doesnt cost over half a million quid to learn to drive, so its a 'give it a try' type of environment, can you imagine how much money would be wasted if every single applicant went through to training after a face to face 'standard' interview.

Anyway congratulations Ezy!

www.English.com

There is a forum on the above link where everyone can cream themselves over correct spellings, grammar and general Englishness.
Enjoy

Thanks to the Mods for sticking this!:ok:

Is it worth having a 'read this first' highlight so that people don't just start their own threads? Might pre-emptively decrease mod workload in merging threads, etc.

Thx PPruneRadar!!!

thank you guys for your answers.

Well done, I have read on this thread that most ppl feel they did really bad on the computer tests, but then go on to pass!! Good luck with stage 3!

Only 11 months and two weeks to go before I can re-sit my stage 1 :bored:

Book
 

At stage one, they recommended a book to read if yo passed stage one.

In my dopeyness, I forgot what it was.

Anyone know?

As for the sticky...I spent 2 bloody days wondering where the thread had gone. :-s

Just completed Stage 1 this morning. I thought I was doing okay until I came up against the "CUBES"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thought they were hard only completed 3/4 of the paper!

Ronnie, when I went (back in 2001) the cube examples they showed you in the practice paper were tiny little 3x3 thingies which I had no problem with. The ones in the actual paper were misshapen monstrosities that made my brain scamper off in fear (hence a failure). Are they still big and scary or have they toned em down a bit?

Hi Ronnie,

Well hope you get through to stage 2!!
I think everyone find them difficult.

I have my stage 1 coming up this Friday in Belfast.
Anyone else doing it in Belfast??

fingers crossed!!! :O

Mishapen monsters I'm afraid! The first few weren't too bad. You get familiar with one type then they go and change them and change the layout too!!

The cubes on the Qantas document are good practice so are the cubes on the NATS practice paper. However, your brain does get a little fried when trying to answer the 40 questions.

I know what I'll be dreaming about tonight!!

Anybody heard anything from the stage 1 day in London on the 21st July? Early days I know, but I do hate waiting.

manchester?
 

hey anyone go to the stage 1 in manchester today, i was on the afternoon slot.
hated the cubes :sad:
x

To stop attention-seeking tards like you from getting in?

hehe! good one

work experiance/visits
 

Hi.I've recently joined this forum and have just been trying to soak up the vast bank of information here. Its been really helpful. I just wanted to ask whats the best way of getting a tower visit or work experiance arranged for a few days. I live in London so ideally....if possible i'd love to visit Heathrow or Gatwick but i wouldn't know where to start/who to contact.I also live quite near to Biggin Hill airport, i've done some flying experiance days down their but i still wouldn't know exactly how to go about arranging a visit to see the ATC their.If anyone has arranged any visits to these places it'd be great if you could give me some more information. Or just general information about how others have gained tower visits.