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Gulf227 11th August 2001 19:51

"Cleared to Land..."
 
Hi ATC Guys and Gals...

I was landing in KCAK (AKRON, OH, USA), and the tower controller cleared us to land...thats it. There are several runways at CAK and it can be confusing. I asked the controller which runway we where cleared for and he came back with the response, "Well which runway did approach clear you for?" I came back, "It shouldn't matter, tell us anyway!!!"
My question, is there any thing that Tower controllers are supposed to say as far as cleared to land on runway 5 or just cleared to land? I didn't want to make this an issue but what if there had been a 5L/R? Our company has had problems here before...

Chilli Monster 11th August 2001 20:33

UK Phraseology is "Cleared to land Rwy...., surface wind is......." and I thought this was pretty much standard throughout the world as far as civil phraseology is concerned. The only time I know where the runway is not given is UK military phraseology. Maybe Scott Voight will give a definitive answer on this as far as the US is concerned?

CM

Aluminium Importer 12th August 2001 01:09

I think the US phraseology is to give the runway before the instruction:

'Callsign, Runway 22L, Cleared to land'

Might be wrong though.

Scott.....


AI

Scott Voigt 12th August 2001 06:48

Hi Y'all;

I had to go back and check... If you have been cleared for an approach to a runway or there is only one active runway being published, then it is not needed to state the runway again...

from the book....

3-10-5 Landing Clearance
a. Issue landing clearance. Restate the landing runway whenever more than one runway is active, or an instrument approach is being conducted to a closed runway.
PHRASEOLOGY -
CLEARED TO LAND,
or
RUNWAY (designator) CLEARED TO LAND.
b. "USN NOT APPLICABLE." Inform the closest aircraft that is cleared to land, touch-and-go, stop-and-go, or unrestricted low approaches when there is traffic holding on the same runway.
EXAMPLE -
"Delta one, cleared to land. Traffic holding in position."
or
"Delta one, runway one eight, cleared to land. Traffic holding in position."
c. USA/USAF/USN. Issue surface wind when clearing an aircraft to land, touch-and-go, stop-and-go, low approach, or the option. Restate the landing runway whenever there is a possibility of a conflict with another aircraft which is using or is planning to use another runway.
PHRASEOLOGY -
WIND (surface wind direction and velocity), CLEARED TO LAND,
or
WIND (surface wind direction and velocity), RUNWAY (designator) CLEARED TO LAND.
NOTE -
A clearance to land means that appropriate separation on the landing runway will be ensured. A landing clearance does not relieve the pilot from compliance with any previously issued restriction.

regards


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