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Asda 4th October 2000 12:50

I don't think the first action would or should be a walk out.

We already have a strong vote of favour of some sort of action over the OJTI issue and that is part of the pay deal on offer. Training ban? Disruption of unpaid duties? And I don't really think that management using this as an issue to blame us over NERCs delay is an issue. Management blame us and what? They still have a centre that doesn't work, an outstanding pay deal and an even more hostile staff.

Nor do I really think public support is important - the issues are complex and I doubt The Sun or The Mail will cover the situation in depth, so lack of public support is probably inevitable. But since any major disruption, if it got that far, would undoubtably be short lived as heads will be knocked together rather than the airlines lose millions in lost revenue. I agree, if the union recommends (or not) agreement and members vote against, then they should be prepared to do 'something' rather than 'nothing' to support the union.

squawk 6789 1st December 2000 05:04

thought i would repeat part of an earlier post on this resurrected thread- given my point, i feel a reminder for some people may be relevant.
"when do we walk? there are legalities to be looked at but ipms etc should be doing their damndest to get us out the door at each and EVERY opportunity from now on. we played ball with them over pay (much to my personal disgust but anyway) and most of the dissenting voices on this site cited ppp as (rightly) the bigger fight and to save our thunder for that issue."
well......................?


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