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GT3 14th May 2003 22:25

Go-arounds to be scrapped at LHR
 
The BBC made us aware last night go-arounds are a very risky business and with that in mind they are no longer to be practiced at LHR.

To prevent the possiblity of a mid-air collision over london, all aircraft WILL land no matter what the circumsances eg. many other planes on the runway/broken down tug on runway/escaped animals running wildly around LHR as if its the serenghetii.

We hope this instills confidence in a clearly unsafe pastime.

vertigo 14th May 2003 22:53

Now if the tower controllers worked a bit harder at getting the planes off the runway, there'd be no need for go arounds ;)

GT3 14th May 2003 23:24

;) now theres a thought

ZRH 15th May 2003 01:45

Or you could make the spacing between traffic on final sooo big that they wouldn't have to go-around, but rather "re-position"

reynoldsno1 15th May 2003 04:46

Why not cut out the middle men and let the BBC take over LHR?

Trinity 09L 15th May 2003 05:19

:p Too many luvvies, saying can we do that again Captain, & would that count as a go around?:sad:

Point Seven 16th May 2003 01:06

GT3

If go arounds are to be outlawed, then doesn't that put you out of a job?!;)

Vizsla 16th May 2003 02:36

Lets get the terminolgy right "luvvies" are actors who are too thick to think for themselves and read other peoples scripts.

Journalists write the words for documentaries and the actors, they know nothing about the subject and can make the opening of a can of beans an international crisis and disaster.

Researchers feed the journalists a brief story line gleaned from someone who was almost there when the beans were opened but heard about it from someone who heard about it from a checkout girl in the supermarket

Jerricho 16th May 2003 02:44

And you P7......but then again, you're so damn lazy, you wouldn't get out of your own way!!! *gasp*

"YUKON HO.................................."

:p :p :p :p

GT3 16th May 2003 21:46


If go arounds are to be outlawed, then doesn't that put you out of a job?!
Doh! better get down the job centre ;) i hear that ann summers are looking for people - know anyone with such experience ;)

halo 17th May 2003 01:00

Wow, its another spectacularly inane thread......... That doesn't happen all the time.... Can we not go back to debating about where my £15K is??

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 17th May 2003 18:32

Blimey.. I thought go-arounds were a thing of the past since I retired? Long ago there was a real frightener developing on 28R (not the numbers) with only 50/50 chance of a departure beating a landing Vanguard. Vanguard, looking down at the dep rolling underneath him says: "What happens if I overshoot ?" Air man says: "You're not cleared to overshoot" so he landed! (Sorry for stone age phraseology)

Bren M

Loki 17th May 2003 18:36

Heathrow Director:

I remember an Aeroflot TU104 (remember them?) being told to overshoot (much nicer phraseology) to which the pilot replied:

"Negative, I am committed"

Gonzo 17th May 2003 18:48

Didn't they take 30 seconds to spool up to full power? Nice!

Warped Factor 17th May 2003 18:53

Told an Iberia to go-around once from short final on 27R one dark and stormy night.

Didn't surprise me when he just ignored what I had to say and landed anyway :ugh:

WF.

Gonzo 17th May 2003 20:22

Same thing happened to me, same circumstances, same airline.

Going back to the Vanguard/Viscount, we were chatting at work yesterday and someone was recounting the tale of when a Trident was launched wheels up following a Viscount, and the Deps controller realised his error, came up on the R/T to the Viscount, just as if it was on the ground at the holding point: "xxx, pull over to the right, there's one to overtake you." He did, and it did!

Gonzo.

eastern wiseguy 17th May 2003 21:33

Seems NO-ONE does what you tell them to......that (in the opinion of programme makers) you are dangerous...and yet you STILL want an extra 15k?



TONGUE SERIOUSLY IN CHEEK!!:ok:

geezer 18th May 2003 00:36

30 secs for a Tu 104 gonzo ? That's for wimps - try an Il76 who lines up , saying "we need three minutes to run engines up to temperature and pressure !" ;-)

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 18th May 2003 01:15

Gonzo.. I think that's actually where the front one was a Bristol Freighter (Bristol Frightener). JK could probably explain!!

barleymow 18th May 2003 01:44

As a frequent flyer I did not find the BBC programme
alarming as it was clearly a drama and not based on
facts, but from some of the incidents you are talking
about here I wonder when TCAS becomes operational.
If it doesn't work on taxiing to holding point, what height
or when does it come into effect?


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