Barcelona "land after"
See attached. Maybe not too unusual, but I thought it was a little tight. Shot taken at LEBL a couple of weeks ago. Seemed similar to the EZY flight that featured in the AAIB report recently.
EI-EPC was the Ryanair lander R-L, N844MH was the departing flight, time was 11:14 UTC, 23 October. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7b86ff8150.jpg |
FR24 suggests that the Delta started to roll about 40 seconds before the RYR was over the numbers.
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What is wrong with that? To me it looks safe, orderly and expeditious...
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Wonder if the tower controller was ex-Gatwick or Stansted? Looks like maximum runway utilisation to me. I have faith that if it wasn’t an appropriate situation, the tower controller would have used all available tools to take required corrective action. |
Q As a retired ATCO with 37 years under my belt, I’ve seen them a lot tighter than that. Looked OK to me. That’s what expedition is all about. |
Get Checker on in that space.......
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'Expect late landing clearance' plus if necessary 'reduce to minimum safe approach speed'.
Having said that, don't Barcelona normally use 25R for landers and 25L for departures; seems to me they're both using 25R? |
chevvron or alternatively: "Please maintain 180 until advised" followed by "you are too fast, the preceding is 2,5 miles G/S less by 60 knots" three minutes later (with the unspoken but strong tone, why are YOU causing this mess).
I know, not landing after departure, but it was the same runway. Hopefully, the times have changed. |
Originally Posted by FlightDetent
(Post 10611099)
chevvron or alternatively: "Please maintain 180 until advised" followed by "you are too fast, the preceding is 2,5 miles G/S less by 60 knots" three minutes later (with the unspoken but strong tone, why are YOU causing this mess).
I know, not landing after departure, but it was the same runway. Hopefully, the times have changed. |
Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 10611081)
Having said that, don't Barcelona normally use 25R for landers and 25L for departures; seems to me they're both using 25R?
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Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 10611265)
180 is a bit fast in my experience; more like 160 or less until 4 nm.
For the picture, the "reduced runway separation" they use here is definately safe, and expeditious, where I work... |
Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 10611265)
180 is a bit fast in my experience; more like 160 or less until 4 nm.
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Not even on the runway at the same time. That doesn't count as remotely close on any single runway at a busy international airport worth its salt.
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I never said they asked for that all the way to 4 miles or nearly close.
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Originally Posted by Packer27L
(Post 10611326)
Guess you haven’t done a jump seat ride to Spain in a while then! :) logical sequencing and 160/4 is expected everywhere other than with our Mediterranean colleagues. I did fly to Barcelona as SLF (to watch Lionel Messi play at the Camp Nou) in 2012 and at about 1 mile final we did a go-around (Easyjet); no excuse or explanation from the captain; maybe the other passengers didn't notice anything unusual! |
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