Barcelona "land after"
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Barcelona "land after"
See attached. Maybe not too unusual, but I thought it was a little tight. Shot taken at LEBL a couple of weeks ago. Seemed similar to the EZY flight that featured in the AAIB report recently.
EI-EPC was the Ryanair lander R-L, N844MH was the departing flight, time was 11:14 UTC, 23 October.
EI-EPC was the Ryanair lander R-L, N844MH was the departing flight, time was 11:14 UTC, 23 October.
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Wonder if the tower controller was ex-Gatwick or Stansted? Looks like maximum runway utilisation to me.
I have faith that if it wasn’t an appropriate situation, the tower controller would have used all available tools to take required corrective action.
I have faith that if it wasn’t an appropriate situation, the tower controller would have used all available tools to take required corrective action.



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'Expect late landing clearance' plus if necessary 'reduce to minimum safe approach speed'.
Having said that, don't Barcelona normally use 25R for landers and 25L for departures; seems to me they're both using 25R?
Having said that, don't Barcelona normally use 25R for landers and 25L for departures; seems to me they're both using 25R?
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chevvron or alternatively: "Please maintain 180 until advised" followed by "you are too fast, the preceding is 2,5 miles G/S less by 60 knots" three minutes later (with the unspoken but strong tone, why are YOU causing this mess).
I know, not landing after departure, but it was the same runway. Hopefully, the times have changed.
I know, not landing after departure, but it was the same runway. Hopefully, the times have changed.



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chevvron or alternatively: "Please maintain 180 until advised" followed by "you are too fast, the preceding is 2,5 miles G/S less by 60 knots" three minutes later (with the unspoken but strong tone, why are YOU causing this mess).
I know, not landing after departure, but it was the same runway. Hopefully, the times have changed.
I know, not landing after departure, but it was the same runway. Hopefully, the times have changed.

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Agree, most don't like flying that fast anymore... they are were aware of unstabilized approaches nowadays...
For the picture, the "reduced runway separation" they use here is definately safe, and expeditious, where I work...
For the picture, the "reduced runway separation" they use here is definately safe, and expeditious, where I work...
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I did fly to Barcelona as SLF (to watch Lionel Messi play at the Camp Nou) in 2012 and at about 1 mile final we did a go-around (Easyjet); no excuse or explanation from the captain; maybe the other passengers didn't notice anything unusual!




logical sequencing and 160/4 is expected everywhere other than with our Mediterranean colleagues. 
