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doc_exe 14th Jan 2014 12:30

ULE
 
"You MUST hold a current CAA/European licence with ADI and APS ratings and have held a ULE in both ratings in the last 3 years. Previous operational experience in both ratings is ESSENTIAL and a meteorological certificate and OJTI and UCE experience would be advantageous."

What is ULE and UCE ?

Defruiter 14th Jan 2014 12:38

Unit license endorsement (been valid with both ratings at a unit)
Unit competency examiner.

Squawk 7500 14th Jan 2014 14:54

Is this for the job at Leeds?

doc_exe 15th Jan 2014 07:44

thanks, yeap

chevvron 15th Jan 2014 09:39

Down south it was always LCE and LVE, has it changed then? (Local Competency Examiner and Local Validity Examiner)

anotherthing 15th Jan 2014 11:49

Chevvron,

it has changed, and it isn't even ULE anymore (as referred to by OP and Defruiter)

UEE - Unit Endorsement Examiner - ATCO authorised by CAA to conduct Unit Endorsement Examinatio
UCE - Unit Competence Examiner - ATCO authorised by CAA to conduct annual competence assessments for the renewal of Unit Endorsements
UE (not ULE) - Unit Endorsement - Authorisation that specifies the unit at which the holder is entitled to exercise the privileges of their licence and the validity of any ratings and rating endorsements included in said licence.

bob1013 15th Jan 2014 21:20

ULE
 
Basically you need to have a lot of things done before you apply for this.... Mmmmm expensive

Squawk 7500 16th Jan 2014 11:26

Maybe he means they're asking a lot for a £30k salary

Gingerbread Man 16th Jan 2014 15:37

A ULE isn't something you can buy. It can only be had by qualifying on a live controlling position at a unit. They are quite specific requirements (maybe they've had lots of people with one or the other but not both apply?), but I imagine the salary would go up once qualified. Just a guess though.

Plain Crazy 16th Jan 2014 15:59

They had my cv speculatively several months ago (in response to an advert on their website) but I haven't heard back despite exceeding the job specs! Good luck getting someone with experience for that money!!

Josef K 16th Jan 2014 16:59

The salary range in the ad is £30750k - £57785.

they're asking a lot for a £30k salary
Theyre asking a lot for £57785, never mind £30k. Does anyone know if there's some kind of antisocial hours payment on top of that?

bob1013 16th Jan 2014 17:34

ULE
 
What Atc unit is prepared to send members of staff on these courses with less than 10 years experience??? If you know any I would like to know them!
The reason I said the word "expensive" -
How much would it cost a controller to take leave and complete these courses out of their own pocket???

Eric T Cartman 16th Jan 2014 20:31

If anyone wants the current UK info, try this :-

CAP 788: Air Traffic Controller Licensing - A Guide to the Licensing Process | Publications | About the CAA

Glamdring 23rd Jan 2014 19:01


Originally Posted by Bob1013
What Atc unit is prepared to send members of staff on these courses with less than 10 years experience??? If you know any I would like to know them!

All of the NATS ones?

Slylo Green 23rd Jan 2014 22:12

My non NATS unit has put me on all these course with under 7 years experience.

otatco 24th Jan 2014 12:35

anotherthing,


Happy with UCE and UE but I thought both CAPs 744 and 788 both refer to Unit ATC examiner rather than UEE?

anotherthing 24th Jan 2014 15:52

otatco

I've not looked at those docs recently but the Swanwick and Prestwick UCS Document refers to UEE (updated July 2013)


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