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look_skywatcher 7th Jan 2010 02:34

Is it "TURKISH" or "TURKAIR" for THY?
 
I'm not sure if this question has already been asked previously. I've tried searching and googling but yiel no satisfactory results.

ICAO DOC 8585 states that the radio telephony callsign for Turkish Airline is
"TURKAIR"

But pilots on the air refuse or even worst ignore when we call TURKAIR. They insist that their callsign is TURKISH.

Is there some background to this that they refuse to be called TURKAIR ?

Thanks in advance.

Farrell 7th Jan 2010 07:19

Same issue in Muscat.

Officially however, it is Turk Air.

I'm not allowed within a donkey's roar of a radar console, but for my advice is to just roll with it, as long as it doesn't affect things too much.

"ICAO DOC 8585 states that the radio telephony callsign for Turkish Airline is
"TURKAIR""

....you wouldn't happen to be German, would you?

"Zat ist not vat it zays in de manual!" ;)

Waterfall 7th Jan 2010 08:29

Cant really see any problem here.:ugh:
If he calls himself Turkish-then he s Turkish,if not-then not,no prob !:}:ok:
This is a safety issue as well-he will expect a msg that begins with Turkish,whilst Turkair mite cause confusion,and if u dont want to say things twice or appreciate ur time.....
Some AALs call themselves *American* but there are some that will say *American Airlines*- makes no difference to me at all.:E

ron83 7th Jan 2010 08:35

try Tango,hotel,yankee :} see if this is any better:E

Funk 7th Jan 2010 12:39

"whats happening with those sausages Charlie?"

"two minutes Turkish"

HHI OPS 7th Jan 2010 14:04

@Ron: HAHA :D

andrepilota 7th Jan 2010 14:26

TURKISH,end of story.:)

Farrell 7th Jan 2010 14:54

"whats happening with those sausages Charlie?"

"five minutes Turkish"

Mr R Sole 7th Jan 2010 21:18

Exactly the same situation with Libyan Airlines.

ICAO code: LAA

ICAO callsign: LIBAIR

However their guys always use 'LIBYAN'. :ugh:

BlueSkye 8th Jan 2010 05:45

"You said two minutes five minutes ago Charlie"

Fox3snapshot 8th Jan 2010 09:36

:cool: Right up there with certain EK pilots that insist on 'Emarati' versus the correct callsign of 'Emirates'!!

I refuse to use/respond to the previous, and will only respond to the latter :oh:

And at the end of the day if they were trying to be pedantic then they should use 'Etihad'! After all, we know who really owns them!! :}

....hand grenade with pin out, rolled into the thread quietly :p

BARKAN 8th Jan 2010 12:34

THY were using "turkair" more than 10 years ago...actually "turkish" in use...
ICAO DOC 8585 is not updated... THY's mistake.

HHI OPS 8th Jan 2010 12:59

maybe THY can send a message to Brussel? I am sure some ACC still call them Turkair..

Spuds McKenzie 11th Jan 2010 20:43

Actually it's TRRKSHSH (at least that's how it comes across on the radio :hmm: )


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