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ajl165 8th Oct 2018 19:22

Thanks for your reply. I'm doing FEAST 2 in few weeks. I wonder what FEAST Plus is all about and what are new tests in that one.
Sorry about you not getting through to interviews, it happens here as well. Too many applicants
Best of luck with your application at Eurocontrol

doggepe 8th Oct 2018 20:05


Originally Posted by ajl165 (Post 10269018)
Thanks for your reply. I'm doing FEAST 2 in few weeks. I wonder what FEAST Plus is all about and what are new tests in that one.
Sorry about you not getting through to interviews, it happens here as well. Too many applicants
Best of luck with your application at Eurocontrol

I have not heard of any FEAST Plus, i did DART and MULTIPASS. There is an online software called "SkyTest" to replicate these, these are basically the exact same tests.

I did not see that there online programs for this until afterwards and i managed anyway. I did a pilot's aptitude test and got multitasking ability in the 98th percentile, so i guess that's what helped me. Just a lot of multitasking here and some stress.

ajl165 9th Oct 2018 04:15

Maybe you did FEAST plus and you don't even know it. Depends on where you took the tests I suppose. Feast plus should be part of series of tests in FEAST 1.
We don't have multipass here, so the biggest challenge will be DART and possibly new FEAST tests. Last year, most ppl over here struggled with cubes and didn't even get to DART.
We will see how I'll do.

doggepe 10th Oct 2018 06:28


Originally Posted by ajl165 (Post 10269284)
Maybe you did FEAST plus and you don't even know it. Depends on where you took the tests I suppose. Feast plus should be part of series of tests in FEAST 1.
We don't have multipass here, so the biggest challenge will be DART and possibly new FEAST tests. Last year, most ppl over here struggled with cubes and didn't even get to DART.
We will see how I'll do.

Good luck, pro tip for DART is to use your finger on the screen to estimate headings, makes it easier. I read that afterwards but i guess it would be easier using a finger lol.

ajl165 11th Oct 2018 13:40

Oh thanks for the pro tip!! Can you please elaborate more about it?
I don't wanna sound dumb lol but can you tell me more details about how you can use your finger to estimate headings during DART. Or was it explained in more detail in this thread?

doggepe 11th Oct 2018 13:54


Originally Posted by ajl165 (Post 10271278)
Oh thanks for the pro tip!! Can you please elaborate more about it?
I don't wanna sound dumb lol but can you tell me more details about how you can use your finger to estimate headings during DART. Or was it explained in more detail in this thread?

Did not see a thorough explanation of it here but the test is split in to 3 exercises and then 3 real tests where you get points.

You have a radar screen in front of you, just like the one on SkyTest: (Doesn't seem like i can like the image but search for "DART radar test on google images and you will see it)


The first part which you get points in you have 1 aircraft which you are supposed to guide through the orange marks in numerical order (1-2-3-4) and do this as efficiently as possible (accurate and without making too many turns)

To do this you first have to estimate the turning radius of the plane + response time until the aircraft starts to turn. When you have estimated the turn radius you can put your finger on the display at the angle you estimate and then move it to the cross in the middle and you'll get a better estimate of the heading you should tell the pilot. How you perform the test will be explained thoroughly in the guide and the practice tests before the real tests and you'll understand how i mean. I just used my mouse and tried to imagine a straight line and was pretty successful but not always 100% accurate.

In the second parts you will have 4 planes to guide and do the same thing.

Third part you do the same but there is surrounding traffic which you have avoid by adjusting your altitude which are 3 selections (100, 200 or 300) and 2 planes cannot be withing 2.5nm of eachother or withing 100 altitude. 2.5nm corresponds to HALF of the distance between two lines on the radar screen.

Not 100% if i remember all the parts correctly but you'll see how it works when you're there. Good luck

ajl165 12th Oct 2018 15:46

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I guess I will see how it is when I get there. Fingers crossed I will be good enough to pass the test.

doggepe 12th Oct 2018 16:13


Originally Posted by ajl165 (Post 10272188)
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I guess I will see how it is when I get there. Fingers crossed I will be good enough to pass the test.

Lets hope so! Just take it chill and methodically, you have time!

Planetick 2nd Nov 2018 13:51

05.11.2018 Phase 1
 
Anybody in for the FEAST in Maastricht on Monday, 05.11.? Feel free to PM me, maybe there is a chance for a get-together the evening before or in the morning for the bus ride.

BRGDS

Clapella 2nd Nov 2018 19:40

FEAST PHASE 1
 
Hi! I' m going to MUAC on the 6 November for the Phase 1 of Feast. I'm staying at the hotel they provide the night before. Anyone taking the test on the same date?

Planetick 12th Nov 2018 11:10

They indeed changed most of the tests for the EUROCONTROL selection in the battery from FEAST1 as well as the already known addition of the Multipass test. However, no need to panic. All tests are manageable without dedicated preparation. Good luck to all!

Freudenstein 13th Nov 2018 11:33

Hello to all of you who have had the FEAST 1 this summer/fall.
Can anybody give me detailes regarding those changes made by Eurocontrol to FEAST 1 and what Multipass means ?

Planetick 16th Nov 2018 15:56

The basic skills which are tested in phase 1 remained the same. It's just the specific tests which where modified, but it is of no help for you if you know the specific new tests. If you want to prepare, you can do this with skytest, but it is well manageable without intense preparation. You will find the multipass in there as well. Otherwise you might search for Multipass on google and you'll find a screenshot and a description of the task.

scottishguy1980 19th Nov 2018 18:12


Originally Posted by ajl165 (Post 10272188)
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I guess I will see how it is when I get there. Fingers crossed I will be good enough to pass the test.

How was the FEAST test? Is it different to the Skytest examples?

ajl165 23rd Nov 2018 21:38


Originally Posted by scottishguy1980 (Post 10314946)
How was the FEAST test? Is it different to the Skytest examples?

DART seemed similar to screenshots I have seen here and elsewhere online. I would say it must be close to the same.
Though, I still don't get 'use your finger' method doggepe described lol I know now what he meant, but I found it impossible to use your finger when traffic on the screen was busy, so I only estimated right headings.
New two tests I've done that day are pretty easy, no need to worry about it. Otherwise, I remember reading wikipedia info and I think FEAST was described really well over there if you wanna have a basic idea.

Planetick 8th Jan 2019 11:58

Students
 
hi,

any atco students here from EUROCONTROL? I passed the selection and registered for the Training Start in october, but looking for some trainees to get to know the current Situation in Training and some other questions. If yes I would be happy If you PM me.

brgds, Planetick

ajl165 9th Jan 2019 17:43

Congrats on passing and best of luck in training :)

aviwoman 16th Jan 2019 07:20

Hi there,

Anyone who has been to the FEAST test in CPH (Naviair) recently?
I am going to the first test shortly and I would really appreciate ANY information and advice.
I have been reading on WIKI and other pages.

Thanks in advance :-)

tzakhi 12th Feb 2019 17:08

I attended and passed feast test today at MUAC. Can someone give detail about phase 2?

tzakhi 12th Feb 2019 20:08

And I'd like to give a tip for DART. If 3 aircrafts are too close to each other, let one of them go away for a few NMs after it passes a checkpoint, then give it a new heading. In the 2nd test, I had a lot of red and blink warnings just because of that. It was a miracle no crash took place. I did what I recommended in the last test and I finished without any red or blink warnings. Also, I missed no checkpoint in the test, but I changed headings for a lot of time. I don't think changing heading takes out a lot of points.


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