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Shadowrun 27th Jul 2011 20:38

New FEAST test at july 2011 in Spain.

SDM was replaced by a brand new test: DART (Dynamic Air Radar T---).

There isn't any info on the internet about DART.

It had nothing to do with strips. It was a radar simulator. You had to change heading and flight levels to avoid conflicts (not local or opposite conflicts, but real crashes).

It's easier than SDM. Instructions are well explained and you have 3 tests to practice before real test.

Duration: 2h

obihoernchen 28th Jul 2011 18:05

Hi,
I followed the whole thread until now an I have two more questions about the feast test.

1) SDM test: When you spotted a local conflict, and you get a message for changing altitude or arrival time in one of the two strips, will this be considered as a new conflict and you have to mark it again or will it be a mistake if you mark it again?

2) cube test: You get a cube and two possible nets, right? But will there be a static image of the cube or is the cube rotating while you think about the right answer?

It would be nice to know about these things. Thank you ;)

roitos 29th Jul 2011 09:48

hey,

in the SDM test you only have to spot conflicts once. After that it is considered as a mistake and you'll be punished. However, Local conflicts are different from Opposite conflicts, in which case you'd have to spot them both but only once no matter if they climb or descend afterwards. All this will be explained to you before the test, so dont worry.

As to the cubes, you'll have a static net and three possible answers: two static cubes or none of them.

hope it helps*

maria31 10th Aug 2011 12:45

sky test
 
is there a level I have to reach in Skytest for being sure of passing FEAST?
how much did those who passed FEAST did on Skytest?

rachael94 11th Aug 2011 13:16

Eurocontrol Application
 
I'm going into my last year of school and I want to apply to Eurocontrol! Currently filling out my application form. Any tips? also do you think I, who will only be 18 if I get through, will have as much a chance as older applicants in their early 20s? let me know :ok:

Approach27L 11th Aug 2011 21:25

Eurocontrol testing
 
Hi folks,

Is anyone going for the phase one testing on September 19th at Maastricht? If so, has anyone done any preparation for it? All the best!:ok:

M atc pt 11th Aug 2011 22:36

eurocontrol testing
 
Hi,
I'm going for the phase one testing on September 20th at Maastricht.
I think there isn't much you can do to prepare yourself, other than having an idea of what the tests are like...
:) I wish you all the best

Janeszka 12th Aug 2011 07:55

Hy guys,
Sorry for my noob question :) But which tests are on Phase 1? Only the FEAST test?
Also do you had to send them a Certification of Visual Performance paper, before Phase 1?

ps: good luck guys!

SierraRomeoKilo 12th Aug 2011 17:39

Hi guys,

I'm going to phase 1 test at 19th. As I read at the polish aviation forum there is no posibility to prepare to the FEAST test1 because in our Polish Air Navigation Service Agency there was a lot of people who past the test doing for ex. the Preparation Tools for FEAST and there were lot more people who past this test without doing anything. So in my opinion it is best to go there and stay focused as much as possible and if you have prepositions to be an ATC you pass it.

For the colegue who ask about the Visual Performance certificate. I've done it.
Why U ask. You didin't have to do it?

Good Luck at yours test. Best wishes from Poland :)

Janeszka 12th Aug 2011 20:45

Hy,
I'm asking it because I had to do it, but I don't have to go to Phase 1, because I passed FEAST here, in hungary few months ago at Hungarocontrol, but after the interview i failed.
I've just got a mail, this afternoon, saying that I will be invited to Phase 2, which will be in October :)

Best wishes for the Phase 1, looking forward to meet on Phase 2 :)

no pain no gain 12th Aug 2011 20:54

hey rachel.. i guess u have the same chance as anyone else
and about the tips.. there are plenty in the thread ;)

boda 15th Aug 2011 22:03

I would like very much if you can take me out a doubt:
If I'm remembering well in the SDM, spotting an opposite conflict implies three checkings:
1 - The two airplanes must fly in opposite directions and their strips must not be removed yet. For example, a first airplane flies from A to B and a second airplane flies from B to A.
2 - In respect to the time distances, the time (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane in point B) and the time (between the 2nd airplane in point A and the 1st airplane in point B) should be less than 4 minutes. These two times should be less than four minutes.
3 - In respect to the vertical distances, the distance (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane in point B) and the distance (between the 2nd airplane in point A and the 1st airplane in point B) should be less than 30 flight units. These two distances should be less than 30 flight units.

My doubts are the following:
1 - In the time distances condition (2nd condition), the time (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane also in point A) and the time (between the 1st airplane in point B and the 2nd airplane also in point B) shouldn't be taken into account? Aren't they relevant?
2 - In the vertical distances condition (3rd condition), the distance (between the 1st airplane in point A and the 2nd airplane also in point A) and the distance (between the 1st airplane in point B and the 2nd airplane also in point B) shouldn't be taken into account? Aren't they relevant?
3 - Finally, are the 2nd and the 3rd conditions necessary to consider an opposite conflict or one of them is enough to spot it?

I'm looking forward for an answer from you and I would like it very much.

Thanks http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif

maria31 17th Aug 2011 07:08

I see it very simple:
1. verify all altitudes.
2. if there is any difference under 30, STOP.
3. verify if the 2 altitudes you have selected (under 30) meet also the time condition, under 4 minutes. if YES= LOCAL CONFLICT.
if NO verify also their destination. if opposite= OPPOSITE CONFLICT
if not opposite= nothing.

Dom. 19th Aug 2011 19:21

Hey,

I am going to phase 2 on the 6th of september. I have read a lot about the tests but i did not find anything about the test where you have to explain a picture or drawing. could anyone give an example? what are they like?
thanks a lot already

LinaT 20th Aug 2011 13:46

Hi,

Is anyone going for the phase 1 on September 21th at Maastricht? (:
Have you heard something about re-taking test? :confused:

obihoernchen 22nd Aug 2011 10:37

The SDM test is no longer in use I think.
I had to do the DART test during my Phase 1 in Maastricht.

Speedbirdnine 23rd Aug 2011 00:55

Could you please explain in what consists of this new test?

Thanks.

obihoernchen 23rd Aug 2011 12:30

It is a radar test. You have to control aircraft in a sector. The test starts with lots of practise time.
After that you have three tests, first without and later with background traffic. During the last test, you have to concentrate on the traffic and on autitive excercises simultaneously.

Speedbirdnine 23rd Aug 2011 14:35

Thank you very much. I guess you can assign instructions with the mouse, right?

I appreciate it.

aura88 30th Aug 2011 15:45

Hi everybody, I m new here! Lina, I also have the 1st phase on 21 September. How do u guys prepare? Are there any free tests we can do?


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