Eurocontrol do indeed train at other sites, I'm starting in November at Austrocontrol, then moving to Luxembourg. Will advise on pass rate :P


What are the allowances? I've heard nothing about these :ooh:

The first two months or something like that, we got a daily allowance to cover costs of moving and stuff like that. But this was 2 years ago, where we did the whole basic course in Luxembourg.

I'm not sure what the situation is now, but I think that during the theoretical phase of the institutional phase Eurocontrol puts you up in a hotel and pays that.
On moving to Maastricht, you get moving allowance again.

Sorry for the late reply. Anyways, I think I didn't get the spot after the face to face interview because I had just recently moved to Europe. That is my best guess as I felt I did quite well in the interview. I passed the NATS interview so I think that was the reason back then.

can you mention the reasons why so many fail ?

Are people to stressed at the micro ? Is it too difficult to manage everything ?
Are instructors/examinators so hard ?

Can you explain a little bit please ? It is so strange a so high failure rate (and so frightening ;-) )


is there a kind of profile that fail more ? or have more success ? (eg engineer, pilot, ...) or is it case by case ?

in case of failure, is there a pay compensation ?

someone to answer ?

I don't think things have changed much but the biggest reasons for failure era still probably lack of ability. commitment and the fear of live traffic. This won't necessarily come out at IANS or in the Sim but only when actual OJT has started. It is possible to some extent to BS your way through the initial phase. It is rumoured that one or two have made it through by sleeping with an instructor:eek:
OJT coaches might sometimes seem harsh - however don't forget. you are working on his/her Certificate of Competency and he/she may step in at any time and take over. If this happens too often you are heading for the chop. You are continually being assessed and your progress. or lack of it, will be discussed at least once a month by the OJT coaches and team Training Officer. The decision to terminate training will not be taken lightly. You will be briefed on your shortcomings, a change of OJT Coach, even of team. may be considered and tried before the dreaded day comes.

Why should there be? You failed, not Eurocontrol.

As usual. read the Eurocontrol website for info on salaries and shift working hours

at you mind, what are the main qualities to have to be successful in the formation ?

I presume you mean during training?

I think if you are chopped before getting your first validation you get back the contributions you made to the pension scheme and over a 2yr period that could be a decent wedge.

The main reasons for failure are lack of skills, attitude failure and in a few cases general immaturity - usually its a combination of these three.

The sector where I work has very committed training staff who will bend over backwards to get you to the final goal as long as the traine shows a willingness to learn and a good attitude. An attitude failure in more cases than not will lead to a career failure.

Thank you a lot for your answers. But I am wondering what you mean by "aptitude" ?
What kind of aptitude is completly necessary to be ATCO ? Multitasking ? Speaking performances ? Virtual 3D vision ? taking decisions ?

Can you explain what is so difficult to learn ? For example, you meant it is more difficult to be ATCO than airliners pilot. Why ? I though flying in 3D and multitasking in flight was pretty complicated (I just have a PPL).

For example, can you explain what is the typical difficulties for you to make you job ?

Unexpected situations. :E

Honest, captain747_747, I understand you want to be prepared but chill a bit, you can't prepare for everything!!!
Same thing for the job itself I'm afraid ...

as an aside, are the medical examinations done around the time of the interviews, or closer to the start of training?

I had my interview around the end of April/beginning of May, and had the medical in July. Start training in November. But then again there are people starting training with me who had the medical sooner.
So, there's nothing set in stone :)

Moira is correct. You cannot prepare for everything

During the interview it's common to move on quickly to another subject ifyou are well clued up on one. For two main reasons; to asses the breadth of yur knowledge and to throw you off balance.

Nothing in the job is predictable, even before you start:{

very interesting condition at eurocontrol. Think to move there. is it possible to get a company car as supervisor like at NATS ?
on the top of this salary, what are the fringe benefits ? (meal voucher, company car, ...)
seems to be the best of europe...

Company car? Meal voucher? You won't need them!

what do u mean ? Too high salary ?

Do NATS supervisors really get company cars?

No such thing as too high a salary. If you're paid a decent salary, you don't need extra perks.

Provide your own meal vouchers. They're called Euros
Company (in the) car - aka sharing the drive.

Other perks? You get the choice of the mile-long hike to the canteen on breaks or going upstairs to watch the latest 747 off the runway incident:ugh:

hello
 

hi everybody ..!!! in a few weeks i got FEAST test , first phase, somebody can give some information , some advices..etc ,thanks a lot ..!!

Try using the search function here. It's been covered many times before.

Aye, many a time. I remember how anxious I was for information before the tests, but it's all here somewhere. :ok:

Hello everybody! First of all, good luck to everybody who takes FEAST this month :)!

Anyway, have you taken any classes before the test or it is possible to pass without any training? I guess so, it's just natural skills but...
Well, I have another question, is there any deadline to apply? I just saw curses dates in the website. I promise, if I go through these tests I will do a detailed post about this process, there are so many questions!

Thanks for your help (and excuse my English u_u)

hello again.>!!
 

thanks guys ..!!!! but anyway pls something concrete...? in 4 weeks i got the exam and ai feel .......!! this Feast exam scare me.!!it s really nothing to do ? what containing interview face to face?...thanks a lot !!!..cheers!

Seriously guys I assure you the FEAST test is nothing to be frightened of. That will in fact be your biggest downfall (stress and fear). There is a 'wiki' page with info on the testing procedure (google it). It contains all you need to know about what it consists of. The best advice I was given was just to really take the time to study all the instructions and dont click next until you KNOW what your about to do. Having done the test twice, I can assure you that understanding what to expect is all that is required. Relax, keep a cool head and if your right for the job, you will pass.

FEAST is basically a series of unusual computer games. Some might say to even try and enjoy it!! :)

Anyone else going for phase 2 on 01/09?

i think the first part of the feast (the "games-part") is pretty easy and getting through of it is really depending on that you're capable for this job or not.
but the second part (strip management display) is more than just reading, understanding and using the rules and instructions.
you have to pay attention for many datas, you have to know where to look for the plane's strip when the lady-in-headset gives you the changes, so it's a bit more complexed than just reading and understanding.
and an advice which is true for the whole feast: do less exercises more exact.

Hi emilb....wondering..just wondering where is that location in Romania???hmmm...'cause we might "meet" eachother in Bucharest for this test....by my oppinion...the first stage is just the "quiet before the storm"....so..in case that you wanna chat....don't hesitate to PM me...Bafta:)))

Hi everyone!!!
 

Sorry about the unpolite appearance...but it was just my mind whitout my hands:P
I'm from Romania like emilb and just entered in this "service" because i want to know many things about EUROCONTROL.Beside...i'm working in aviation domain since 2007..and like most of you i'm interested to "go higher"....if you know what i mean..Anyway.....nice site...
I will going to "mind" the FEAST Test in aproximaly 2 or 3 weeks, depending the "opponents".
P.S:As I said before, i'm working in aviation....i'm wondering if The Medical Class 3 Exam for ATC is required in the moment you give the test???
P.S.2:I have attended one in 01.06.2009....and has a validity period of 2 years....
Many thanks!

Hi again.In this morning i had to make a call to the Aviation Service Administration to see if that Medical Certifycate is necessary for the test.A lady told me that if I have a valid certificate the medical examination is not required for the test.
So...by my oppinion i'm through whit one test..One down, two to go:ok:.
I saw that noboby return a reply?Why is that???Are you studying intense for the FEAST???:ugh:

hi TheWitcher..!!
 

congrats for medical , that s great thing , ok , i send you a pm message but ..no answer...:confused:

hello...am I from Romania too...and I want to take the test...so if anyone would like to share some information I'd be delighted to chat ...by the way I read all the posts...helpful I guess
keep in touch

Hello all,
Just wondering if there is anybody here travelling to Maastricht for the phase 2 testing on 29/30th September?

hey anty
 

hey there,

can i ask you why would you like to go to the eurocontrol instead of nats?

Hi piqla,

I guess the main reasons I would prefer to work for Eurocontrol rather than Nats are because:
- I like the idea of working in Maastricht, much nicer than Swanwick imho.
- Whilst I have great respect for all at Nats for working some of the busiest airspace in the world, the future at Eurocontrol looks better with SES, acquiring new blocks of airspace etc etc..
- Quality of life certainly looks a lot better during the training phase
- I am 24 so this would be my last chance to apply to Eurocontrol, I will have the opportunity to try with Nats if I dont succeed this time.

Nats would be a great company to work for, I have visited Swanwick, Heathrow, West Drayton (when TC was still there), all great places filled with great people. Its just my personal preference to go for Eurocontrol.

Acquiring new airspace because of SES....

Mmmm, SES is an excuse for any ANSP to claim airspace back. If anything, it looks like MUAC will shrink in volume in the future, eg raising division levels to generate cash flow to pay for a new ops room...

Hi! i want to ask if eurocontrol discount the money for the flying tickets and hotel when you go to Maanstricht for the exams. thanks.

Eurocontrol book and pay for the hotel in maastricht for you, its called the tulip in and is located at maastricht airport. As for the flights you have to book and pay for them yourself then eurocontrol refund you the cost after you have attendend the tests. They will also pay for any train tickets you have to buy to get to maastricht.

It's a fair hike from the Motel to the Centre if it's raining. Probably worthwhile sharing a cab. You can book one at the motetl reception.

hi
 

hi, could you give me some tips and advice? I have been invited to do phase one and would like to know how to prepare myself..

Thanks