So i guess you're speaking german very well. Or in Austria the training is in English?

phase 1
 

Hi all,

Got my phase 1 in Maastricht this week, for those who were wondering, took them about a week from online application to asking for diplomas, then a week after I sent my diplomas for the eye test request. Then just a couple of days till the invite.

I was hoping someone could give me a breakdown of what to expect, what happens in the morning session? and what happens in the afternoon?

Many Thanks,

Ollie

Hey!

I'm taking the 1st phase on the 22nd of june!

Can you tell some questions you got in the 1st phase?

Regards

at the first part of the feast you won't get any question, you will get exercises and tasks!:ok:

1
 

Hi,

Ye im also heading out on the 22nd for phase 1,kinda exciting!!!
would be a great job!

If anyone has any info on the sort of questions and tests that go on let me know!

Cheers!!:D

When applying for Eurocontrol, once the application form is submitted and certificates e-mailed off to them, how long would you expect to wait before hearing something ref' whether or not you'll be invited to Maastricht? Its now been three weeks and i've not heard anything which has me slightly concerned that there may have been a problem.

Try asking

Phone : +31 43 366 2017
Phone : +31 43 366 1318

I've just been invited to begin my ATC training with Eurocontrol (pending a medical) in March next year.

My advise to those who are going to phase 1 is to take a look at this link about the feast test. You can't really do any preperation because it is all about your natural ability and reactions. Just make sure you get a good nights sleep and are fully focussed.

FEAST test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Phase 2 - they look at you as a person rather than just test results. You will need to do a small presentation on a task they provide and see how well you work in a team in a group discussion. Again no preperation is needed. English will be assessed.

Phase 3 - Final Interview - Prepare for this like you would any other interview - research the company and the role.

Ollie

Hello Ladies and Gents..
I did my visual performance test today, and have a question.
On the Eurocontrol website, i found this;
Distant visual acuity, after correction if
necessary, shall be 7/10 (6/9) or better in
each eye separately using Snellen charts (or
equivalent) under appropriate illumination and
binocular visual acuity shall be 10/10 (6/6) or
better.

I got 6/10 for the right eye.

On the Certificate of visiual Performance, beneath the Visual activity section - where the doctor wrote 6/10 etc.. - there is a part called "cc:"
Does this mean after correction? if so i get 10/10 which is acceptable.. i am really nervous about this and this is the only place i can ask.. any help would be appreciated!
Thank you in advance,

Kind regards

Hi there everyone. I'm new to the forums but I'm flying out to Maastricht and taking my first stage test on the 22nd June.

I've been told that there are two parts to this first stage, and you'll only be able to take the afternoon stage after passing the morning stage, does anyone have any information on what these two stages are like?


Also, does anyone have any information on Eurocontrol itself, like how many people they employ, what their history is like, stuff like that?


Sorry to ask so many questions right off the bat but I'm having real trouble finding any info elsewhere.

PJNewlands

Try doing a search, either on this forum or the internet in general.
You could even try reading the previous posts:ugh: I don't think initiative is your strongest skill:(

there's also a list of similar threads linked at the bottom of the page.
gl with the tests! ;)

hello,

Is there anybody heading over to Maastricht on the 26th June for the phase 1 test?? I have been invited for the 26th and would be nice to see others heading then :)

Well aren't you just charming Millerman?

I'm sure I never would have thought of doing those basic checks without your help, oh how I was lost but now am found, thank you so much mister shepherd.

Having used these options, I've found the basic outline for the day of my tests, but I haven't had any specifics yet, which is what I was looking for.


mjt3, thanks for your help and good wishes, it's appreciated. If you (Millerman) and wondering why I'm thanking him and not you, it's because he isn't, shall we say, socially disadvantaged.

EDIT: Nah, this was uncalled for, I'm sure you were just trying to help but went about it badly. I take it back.

PJNewlands,
Maybe I was a bit harsh, but when the answers to all your questions are in this thread and there are even 2 HR phone numbers on here that you can ring and ask for any information about Eurocontrol that you will ever need, but you haven't bothered to read the previous posts, then why should anyone answer your questions properly ???
I am glad that now I am part of the training section here in Maastricht that I have good shepherding skills but we try not to spoon feed trainees here.
By the way I will try to keep my social disadvantages out of your interview - if you get that far:)

To be fair there Millerman, I have read through all the posts in this thread, I've also read the "Eurocontrol Phase 1 - Any advice?" and "Eurocontrol Phase 1 Testing" threads. The answers they gave were not what I was looking for. They are helpful in saying what test will be used (The FEAST test, which I already knew) and how the day will be set out (morning session that will have to be passed to go onto the afternoon session - also known previously) as well as good tips for the day.

What sort of information I was looking for, and admittedly did not make clear, was the specifics of the day which I can't seem to find information about. I was hoping to find out how the FEAST test would be divided between the morning and afternoon sessions, as it's been said that it was to be used for both, as well as how the transition between morning and afternoon sessions would take place. I haven't been able to find the answers to these particular questions within this thread or the others I've looked at.

I am sorry to say that I did not see the two HR phone numbers to which you are referring, so I will find them and utilise them to try to find my answers.


I do apologise to you for misjudging you and your words as cynical when you were trying to help and the failure of communication was mine.

answer
 

i'd be happy to help you and sharing my experiences but i think (although my country's provider is the member of the eurocontrol too) the schedule of the day is different than in Maastricht.

I have been invited to phase 1 test on June 26th.
I will do my best and hope to pass to phase 2.
Then a short idea about the selection process: I think it should not worry anybody because it's just a way to assess if an applicant has the prerequisites to become a good air traffic controller.
Obviously I hope to have success!

Not a very good comment on your powers of observation. See post 87.

I am also invited to Phase I on Friday, 26th June... :)

Well I'm back from the first stage of testing, it was quite enjoyable all things considered. Should hear how I did next week sometime.

I'm quite intrigued about working for Eurocontrol, im currently halfway through NATS selection process and just awaiting stage three. However I would love to do atc in maastricht. My main concern though is im quite unfamiliar with the german language and was wondering how much of a hinderence/problem this would be.
Since atc rt is in english i feel that would be benefit but to al those others applying how many are fluent german speakers?

The Eurocontrol centre is located near Maastricht, the Netherlands.
Working language is English. If you look at their website the only language requirement for the job is to 'have a good command of English, the international language of aviation'.

Eurocontrol employs controllers from all over its member states, and most of them don't speak any Dutch when they apply. Everyday life is of course somewhat easier if you have/acquire some basic knowledge of the language, but then again many people around here speak/understand several other languages.

Edit: Since Dutch is my mother tongue I may not be your best source of information if you need to know about possible language problems ...

hello people,
Was in Maastricht on friday for the first phase, and passed it so all good :)
My question is what to expect on phase 2? i read that there is going to be a task given and they will look at your skills such as organisation teamwork etc.. Could anyone give me more info please? Would really appriciate it! Thank you in advance,

Eray

Phase 2
 

Hello to everybody and to you Eray,
I passed phase 1 too, and I am happy about this.
I have just received invitation to phase 2, and I still need to read the documents attached.
About phase 2 I know some information retrieved on the web.
If those info are correct we will listen to a lesson about flight plans and then everybody will have to prepare a flight plan and discuss it. Then the entire group of applicants will prepare another flight plan, working together.
Those positively assessed will have the interview the next morning, something like a tipical job interview with different kind of questions.

See you at phase 2 in Maastricht.

Fabrizio

In regards to eurocontrols request for;
"leaving diplomas (including secondary education)"

does this refer to all examination result sheets (A level and GCSE)? As im not too sure of any other certification i have regarding this.

Just send them the copies of High school diplomas and, if you have completed university level studies or any other post-secondary education course, send them that diploma/degree too.

Eurocontrol Testing - Some Questions
 

Hello everyone!
I am new at the forum and I have some doubts and I would like to know if any of you could help me.

I am applying for ATCO in Eurocontrol in Maastricht and in my country. Both of them use Feast test. Following your suggestions in other posts I have read wikipedia information on this test but these two information seem contradictory.

"According to the rules of Eurocontrol, unsuccessful applicants must wait 2 years before a second attempt."
"(...) Eurocontrol sets the priority of the FEAST test on basic skills. Additionally, unlike some other national air traffic control organisations, multiple attempts are possible."

Other countries need to make their applicants wait two years to repeat the test but Eurocontrol doesn't`? Is this right?
I am asking because I am going to be 24 in a few days and I can't risk failing and then not be allowed to repeat the test in the two years after once the age limit is 25.
What if I fail the test in my country can I take it in Eurocontrol again?


Another question is if Eurocontrol ATCO when they finish their training have to stay in Maastricht or are they placed along Europe?


Sorry for the long post.

Cheers

Every ATCO at eurocontrol works at Maastricht. No choice, no any other place

I tested at Eurocontrol when I was 24. Got past all the stages and to the face to face interview. In the end I was not selected and had no other possibilities with them. It's sad because I was really excited about possibly working for them.

Can you tell us what went wrong at the face to face interview ? Did you get a kind of feedback ?

I really though that when you reach this step it is pretty sure you succeed...

what was your background at this time ?

thank you for your interesting feedback

Not 100% correct. it is also possible to work in Brussel, Luxembourg or Bretigny after qualifying. Once aquired the skills can be put to use in other departments of Eurocontrol. This can be a temporary or permanent move.

This is the real stumbling block for many candidates. At least one member of the board will be a controller who wil be assessing how you will function as a team member, your dedication, even the way your mind works. There's very little you can do to prepare for this except learning that when you have dug yourself a hole it is time to stop digging further.

are ATCO at eurocontrol paid on 12 or 13th month ?

Are there some extra money ? (vacation pay, 13th month or smthg ?)

thank

All ATCO cadets that go through the training for Eurocontrol are trained in Luxembourg and are posted to Maastricht, period. Of course in later years you can go to other parts of the agency but the same can be said that once you are valid you can move on to other companies in different countries to ply your trade. The salary is monthly, no bonuses that I am aware of.

and do you have an idea of the salary of an ATCO expat on 12 months ?

If you mean whilst studying as a cadet, they get paid somewhere around 1200-1500 euros per month I think. I am sure an ex-student from Luxembourg could confirm or deny this.

As for being a valid controller, the chances of getting into Maastricht are slim to nil, they have only taken experienced ATCOs from other units a couple of times in the last 10 years, salary is good though. I have not worked there but believe it is around 7-8K per month, it will depend on experience etc but again, perhaps a Maastricht Controller could clarify this.

Cheers

Not always Luxembourg. Some are going through training at the DFS campus in Langen-Frankfurt at the moment.

It is the long term plan to stop training in Luxembourg, so they are sending trainees to Langen, Brussels, Sky Guide, LVNL etc on a rotational basis so get an idea of which places is best for a permanent move.

Salary is 12-1500 per month as a basic trainee plus the one-off allowances which total about 4.5k €

Salary increases if you make the transfer to Maastricht to around 2k €. During the final stage of training it is about 3.6k € (including shift and expat allowances). With one licence around 4.900€ and with the second validation just over 6000€

On completion of the first and second validations you receive 'bonuses' of around 8-10000€ each time, depending on your living situation.

There is a yearly backpay, worth between 800-2000€ depending on your grade and also a yearly travel expenses worth anything between 20-2000€ depending on where you where recruited from.

Ex-pat controllers are also entitled to a tax-free Dutch plated car and various other fringe benefits that mostly are NOT taken advantage of due to paperwork!

The FEAST test is basically to make sure that you have a brain in your head, but it is the one-on-one interview that really decides the outcome - DO NOT enter this interview thinking that you have got the job, otherwise you are probably in for a shock.

Eurocontrol are still recruiting 3 courses of Ab-initio students per year, totalling around 40-60 people per year - they also have recently taken experienced conversion controllers.

The failure rate is HIGH even from those who successfully passed the recruitment process - i'd say about 30% of those who start in Luxembourg make it to full validation - they even recently failed a couple of conversion controllers :ooh:

Good luck with it, as I think you will need it - but if it works out its definately worth it :cool:

Thank you for all your information !!

excuse me ? 30% of success rate ? they write 40% of FAILURE rate on their website.

Are you an ex ab-inition cadet ?

What is a typical career path ? Where are you in it ?

what is your typical day ?

Yes, you are correct, Eurocontrol do send students to other ATS providers for training, they were trained exclusively in Luxembourg when I was there.

Failure rate is more like 75%, 40% failure rate means a 60% pass rate! what a joke! My last course involvement had 14 students start, 6 are left and are still training, you do the maths....