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Bongodingo 23rd Jan 2009 23:42

Aha! Yes that could be a problem, i had no idea. That's quite an interesting situation, been doing this job a little while and never seen an aircraft ban, maybe recall but never ban. Well I'll just get on with it and hope for Dubai OMDB to come unglued.

;)

Fox3snapshot 24th Jan 2009 00:33

Not just ACFT types, but some companies as well. We have some real stars operating in this part of the world that is for sure..... :rolleyes:

TheFalcon 25th Jan 2009 12:02


Recruitment for BOTH Dubai OMDB & Jebel Ali OMJA has been put 'On Hold'!
Jebel Ali I'm quite sure but are you sure about OMDB as well? I know we are sort of "OK" right now but is there an official "hold"?

Free_Speed 25th Jan 2009 13:59

Any news about the on-going contract negotiations at OMDB? They seem confident everything is going in the right direction...

Another year of growth and success for Dubai Airports

Tin-Bullet 26th Jan 2009 16:24

@ TheFalcon


Jebel Ali I'm quite sure but are you sure about OMDB as well? I know we are sort of "OK" right now but is there an official "hold"?
According to OFFICE & HoT, there are only about 2 or maximum 3 courses planned for this Year!! Then NOTHIN More planned......

Credit crunch sees to have hit the region too, even though we think Money is not a problem here, but the truth is, that traffic levels have gone down TOO!

Again Jebel Ali airport has been delayed for ANOTHER Year, so for now, recruitment has been put on hold......

My big question is, what's gonna happen with the personnel down the road @ Jebel Ali? they can surely be utilised up here in Dubai, as had been rumoured in the past.....:confused:

The Dubai Contract... 1st needs to put the act together & EXTEND the present Contract!! It seems that the 'hoped for Partnership' with the DCA - DANS has been brushed under the carpet.......

Payrise?:mad:

Allowances review?:ouch:

PAY CUT????:{ this is also rumoured......

this credit crunch........:yuk:

DXB Radar is also preparing to move down to the new Unit in Jebel Ali, so if this will happen, then no more training slots for new recruits, cos they will need to train the present ATCOs for the new system down there!

It's all uncertain for now!!:*

9H31 26th Jan 2009 20:42

Keep us updated please. Heard a roumor the Jebel ali could be delayed even till the end on 2011 or early 2012. :ugh: the problem seems to be a political one.

TheFalcon 27th Jan 2009 20:01

Pay decrease my foot!!
 
If we start repeating rumours about pay cuts we are actually inviting them in. This forum is a public one so be very careful about spreading rumours here. I will state this firmly for all to know:

I will not take a pay cut!

And I know a lot who will not. So that all who have ears will hear. If you want Dubai ATC a desert let them cut our salaries!!

SINGAPURCANAC 27th Jan 2009 22:27

15 days, end of contract notification,is still applicable in your case? :E

TheFalcon 28th Jan 2009 06:41

15days
 
Yes 15 days is fine. Much better than sending me cutting sugar cane or shifting cow dung like someone might !!

Fox3snapshot 28th Jan 2009 12:44

I guess that covers the 15 day end of contract notification comment :ooh:

Capt Zorro 28th Jan 2009 13:48

Wont take a pay cut
 
Thats what they said in Hong Kong

As one who studies history now, I think back to Hong Kong ATC, they all said No pay cut for us.....and what happened

They got a big pay cut nd most of them took the pay cut right up the a:mad::mad:e and stayed, despite them saying NO WAY.

hope you have a backup plan buddy.

cheers

TheFalcon 28th Jan 2009 16:01

Backup Plan
 
Well Capt.Zorro maybe you are right, not all have the guts to say no in a unionless organisation such as ours. Yes I do have a backup plan (its a big world out there)and some who are already fed up are already getting to leave anyway. Money isn't everything you know and Dubai really gets up your a:mad:e in the end!

ddtonti 1st Feb 2009 13:11

assistants in dubai
 
Random question guys.

Does anyone know of anyone who takes on assistants in UAE?

Im nearly ex RAF of 8 years, worked in Towers, I'm Met Q and just spent the past 3 years in area radar.

I always hear of ATCO jobs, but dont know where to start enquiring about assistants (thats if you have them out there!)

Have tried Nats and didnt get the job after my interview (wasnt special enough!!)
But really fancy a shot out there.

Any help would be great. :ok:

TheFalcon 1st Feb 2009 19:19

assistants in dubai
 
Assistants in Dubai are not on a Serco contract but DCA. They are either locals or asians. If you fancy living in a shared accom with other fellow asians (no offence to all asians out there of course) I can always ask.

Cheers:ok:

wadi racer 2nd Feb 2009 08:23

Assistants in Dubai
 
Hi ddtonti

The military are contracting out to a company to provide assistants I believe, and they alternate between Minhad and Dubai. I think the company is GAL, however I stand under correction. The have employed quite a few South African assistants and controllers.

Hope that helps ...............
Cheers

ddtonti 2nd Feb 2009 19:08

assistants in dubai
 
Thanks for the help guys.

Will be coming over with family. So sharing is not an option!!!! I have also heard about GAL. Think I will get in touch with them.

Fox3snapshot 3rd Feb 2009 05:17

Assistants just received a payrise in the ACC which puts them up around the 1500 GBP mark....per month, nothing included!!! :uhoh:

Oh, I stand corrected, there is the free bus to work! :hmm:

Not an option I'm afraid. GAL don't provide to civil units as they don't have civil accreditation from the Authority here, only providing to the Military units.

the Shue 4th Feb 2009 09:24

To say that the Jebil Ali Airport completion will be delayed is a bit of a spin on words. It more likely accurate to say that they are unable to meet the unrealistic completion date that someone with a one number licence plate insisted upon. This is very common with most projects in the UAE. Whatever new completion dates that are pulled out of the air are again guidlines not to plan your life around.

Falcon, you have the right attitude in standing firm on the pay cut issue but as you are probably aware, there is absolute zero solidarity in the units there. Sadly, you're departure may actually be welcomed by those who have mates waiting to get in. I don't know if you are with SERCO but that does sound like a typical SERCO type trick, where they put out a rumour of pay cuts, and then when they return with no pay cuts but instead, a zero percent raise, everyone's happy. :(

Fox3, assistants also get FREE uniforms. :cool: They're good quality too, just melt one down and see.

250 kts 6th Feb 2009 13:44

I understand that there at least 2 NATS area people on their way in early March to start at ACC in Abu Dhabi.

privatesandwiches 6th Feb 2009 13:58

The first chipping away of the once mighty NATS pension has begun and will continue to be eroded at every chance from here on in.
The main reason people stayed for an entire career is no longer there.
Plenty of people are looking elsewhere already and I would expect quite a few to wander towards sunnier climes. Maybe take VR and then off to pastures new wouldnt be such a bad move.
Well done NATS management, you have potentially shot yourself in the foot there... better appoint new management roles to compensate and do it quickly as thats all you are good at !!! :ok:


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