quiet like the traffic levels :p:p

Now now ERIC that's not the way to build inter-unit relations. But still no update from the MACC guys-either they're all doing AAVAs or on leave.:E:E

Oh come on boys and girls-there's never been a better time to respond this summer cos your movements were actually UP by 20 on the same day last year.:D:D -a rare event indeed.:):)

do you mean 20 movements?? would anybody even notice?? surely it cant be 20 percent, that would be crazy?

Yep-20 movements or 1.1%. I just thought it was an ideal opportunity for them to respond as it is rare for their movements to actually increase this year-they are actually down by around 1.5% over the year despite the Lakes re-sectorisation. I suppose the reason for this is the reduction of routes by Flybe after they took over BA connect.

Bored chaps? :sad:

What's the point in arguing with and responding or explaining to people on the internet who have already firmly made their minds up before one even engages one's keyboard-prodding fingers.

I'm glad, 250kts, that our traffic figures are keeping you entertained by the way. Those long cold summer nights must simply fly by :E

Ceannairceach,

At LACC movement and delay figures are posted all over the unit so they are a talking point.

The thread was started to highlight an AAVA ban and the effects it would have. I'm sure we are all interested into what the effects have been on the unit and the way management have handled the situation.

Is the ban still going on? How many is the unit short by? Have management attempted to change night rostering to get more staff in during the day?

All legitimate questions.:confused:

Seems like a certain individual at LACC has sent an email to all the ATCO's trying to envoke an AAVA ban for the beginning of OCT in order to try & get more money for an AAVA. The said person has already done 17 AAVA's since April himself!
Could it be that by that point he will have done is quota for the year!

:ugh:

I had to laugh when I read the emails at home last night.

What a muppet!!

He is the worst team player in NATS yet is after a team response to a ridiculous request.

I think he forgets that it is because of his abuse of the aava agreement when it first started that the 14 day rule was introduced.

This guy thinks nothing of screwing over people on his own sectors in order to look after his own neck.

I notice the unions response was also cc'd to the new GM and Mr Foster.

Lets hope they take some action!

The rumour is he is in today, working a .............. you guessed it, an AAVA!
Also heard this morn that he might be making a visit to Level 4!

Not before time!

They might want to double check why he is so good at speed control yet he got two close together last week whilst working................................an AAVA

You do have to question the level of intelligence of the individual who uses a company PC to ask all of his colleagues for, what is paramount to industrial action.:ugh::ugh:

There are reasons why the union hasn't sought to increase the amount paid for AAVAs.

Maybe said emailer, I've no idea who it is by the way, should have spoken to them first before starting his one man greed campaign.

Quite agree roffa....the union is there to put forward suggestions and proposals. AAVA's at the end of the day are an individuals choice. Comes down to supply and demand....one man emails for action are not the way forward.

If he can call for a unilteral ban in one direction then surely management can impose one on him-no more AAVAs for him in the future would be a sensible move i reckon. And think of the opportunities this would open up for others to do them together with the inevitable boost to morale on the unit that he can't do 'em any more.:D:D

I think the union would cry foul since it is an agreement negotiated for all staff without any recourse to prejudice being available to management. Otherwise there could be a lot of cherry picking going on and AAVA schemes to suit different groups of people or the application of favouritism with no come back. No doubt the gentleman in question would ask the union to take up his case and win :(

Personally, I think his peers should deal with him. Spread the word on who it is and what they have done at a local level ... and watch the fun :ok:

But I reckon NATS could use that as a disciplinary sanction if they chose to go down that route. I'd be surprised if the union would kick up too much of a fuss if that were the case.

Every one knows exactly who it is as he sent it from his NATS address and signed it!! Not sure peer pressure will do too much to this particular individual.:ugh:

I do have to say that the local union response was spot on though which has not always been the case.:D

Come on chaps who is the mystery man? put me out of my misery

nats OFFICIAL figures-released this week for MACC
 

MACC traffic UP from last year 7.7%
LACC traffic up from last year 3.8%

MACC stil unable to split sectors when needed and now man and boying sectors so delays are not racked up.

Those are NATS figures. Official.
And still no-one's listening

Are people still doing AAVAs?